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Did you know nomination
[edit]- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by SL93 talk 23:39, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
- ... that African American leaders W. E. B. Du Bois and Booker T. Washington engaged in a 20-year feud over Washington's alleged appeasement of Southern whites?
- Source: Aiello, Thomas (2016). The Battle for the Souls of Black Folk: W.E.B. Du Bois, Booker T. Washington, and the Debate That Shaped the Course of Civil Rights. Bloomsbury Publishing. ISBN 9781440843587. LCCN 2016000777.
- ALT1: ... that fistfights broke out in a 1903 meeting of African American leaders when William Monroe Trotter challenged Booker T. Washington's appeasement of Southern whites? Source:Fox, Stephen (1970). The Guardian of Boston: William Monroe Trotter. Atheneum Press. pp. 49–58. OCLC 21539323. Retrieved May 8, 2025.
- NOTE TO REVIEWER: The Copyright violation tool will report two false positives, resulting from quotations of historical figures Du Bois and Washington in the article. There is no plagiarism.
- Reviewed:
Noleander (talk) 16:51, 22 May 2025 (UTC).
@Noleander: Article newly GA'd and long enough. The copyvio issue is as mentioned, with no detected plagiarism aside from the flagged quotations. The second hook is verified and mentioned directly inline (I went ahead and added "fistfights" verbatim). The original hook is... a bit iffy about "mentioned inline", plus the article mentions the Du Bois really only began negatively talking about it in 1901 (which makes 14 years, not 20). Passing ALT1 and rejecting ALT0 for now, subject to revision. Juxlos (talk) 00:06, 1 June 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for the review. Regarding ALT0, you are correct that sources mention various durations of the feud: The "start" year is fuzzy: Some say 1895-1915 (20 yrs); or 1901-1915 (14 yrs) or 1903-1915 (12 yrs). So maybe ALT1 is indeed safer. Noleander (talk) 00:11, 1 June 2025 (UTC)
Peer review
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I've listed this article for peer review because I'm planning on nominating it for WP:Featured article status soon, and want to make sure it is ready. In May user Spookyaki did a Peer Review, and in June user Eddie891 did an informal review. But I think one more review would be helpful, because the article subject is rather nuanced. Any help is appreciated ... but I'm mostly looking for input on prose quality and Manual Of Style compliance. Thanks!!
Thanks, Noleander (talk) 13:15, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
Comments from Tim riley
[edit]This seems to me a first-rate article, clearly suitable for FAC. A few very minor comments on the prose:
- First, I wonder – but do not press the point – about the capitalisation of North and South. In the first place you are inconsistent: "many Northern intellectuals disagreed" but "Opponents included northern intellectual W. E. B. Du Bois" etc , and more to the point why would either Northern or Southern be capitalised anyway?
- The rule is North/Northern/South/Southern are capitalized when discussing the regions of the US in the context of the US civil war or its aftermath - which is the case in this article. The rule is stronger for the nouns North/South (vs the adjectives); and stronger for the South (vs North). Thanks for pointing out the lowercase "northern" which is an error. Noleander (talk) 00:25, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
- "W.E.B Du Bois" – should (if you believe the Manual of Style) have spaces as well as full stops between his initials in the image caption.
- Done. Noleander (talk) 00:27, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
- Should "Southern Blacks" really be capitalised?
- Done. The convention adopted by this article is lowercase "b", so that is an error. Fixed. Noleander (talk) 00:28, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
- Not making an issue of this, but in "favored leaders that endorsed confrontation ... leaders that relied on subtlety" wouldn't "who" rather than the somewhat biblical "that" be more in keeping with modern usage?
- Done. Noleander (talk) 00:30, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
That's all from me on the prose. The present text seems to me scrupulously neutral in tone and emphasis, which can't have been easy, and it is a jolly good read, too. Please ping me when you go to FAC. Tim riley talk 18:35, 11 July 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks again, much appreciated! Noleander (talk) 00:30, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
- SC
Comments to follow. - SchroCat (talk) 19:52, 11 July 2025 (UTC)
- Lovely piece of work. I made a couple of minor changes in these edits, but nothing too contentious. The only other comment I’d have is that in the sources you need to add spaces between Du Bois’ initials, to keep it consistent as much as anything. Please let me know when you go to FAC with this. Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 04:50, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for the review and the kind words. Agree that spacing in "W. E. B." needs to be uniform in both prose and sources ... I'll double check that. Noleander (talk) 14:25, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
'Harlan told Washington'?
[edit]Perhaps 'Du Bois told Washington'? Otherwise it wouldn't support or be relevant for the previous sentence that claims that Du Bois originally agreed with Washington. It also seems impossible for Harlan to have told Washington anything, because Harlan was born after Washington's death. Anonymous44 (talk) 00:10, 19 June 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks for identifying that mistake. I have fixed it. Noleander (talk) 01:36, 19 June 2026 (UTC)
Congratulations!
[edit]...to all the editors who contributed to this article and got it to featured status. I see it took a lot of hard work and I think you should be proud of what you all have accomplished. Best Regards, Barbara ✐✉ 13:44, 19 June 2026 (UTC)
- @Barbara (WVS) - Thanks for the kind words. I had the help of quite a few other editors. Happy Juneteenth! Noleander (talk) 13:48, 19 June 2026 (UTC)
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