Talk:Archduke

King of Spain

Should this article mention that the current King of Spain uses the title Archduke of Austria despite being a female-line descendent. Emperor001 (talk) 19:50, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Above grand duke?

What is the basis for the claim that an archduke is a higher title than a grand duke? john k (talk) 13:51, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

@John K I join you in wanting to know the answer. Indeed, I should like to know the rationale for all the relative ranking suggested: "It denotes a rank within the former Holy Roman Empire (962–1806), which was below that of emperor, and roughly equal to that of king, prince-(arch)bishop, and grand duke, but above that of sovereign prince and duke." Animadversor (talk) 21:46, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

Perhaps when the title first emerged it might have been said to relate to the other titles mentioned in the way described—perhaps—but certainly during the time when the title was most greatly used it was peculiar to the Arch-house of Austria, and it is almost futile to try to rank it relative to titles used by multiple houses. Animadversor (talk) 21:59, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

MILHIST

I can't see anything in the article to explain the inclusion of this article in WikiProject Military History, so I have removed the banner. Feel free to contact me on my talk page or the MILHIST community in general at WT:MILHIST if you believe this was not an appropriate course of action. Regards, Peacemaker67 (send... over) 11:09, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

Ducal Hat

The text states: 'Archduke (in German Erzherzog) is a title distinct from Grand duke (in German Großherzog) ...' but the caption under the top illustration reads: 'Grand ducal hat, the insignia of the archduke'. If the insignia for grand dukes and archdukes is the same, that should be mentioned in the text. Obviously, this isn't a big issue, but at the moment it's a little confusing as this information (which may or may not be correct) is only given in the caption. If there is overlap between the ranks and titles this should be stated in the text and not crop up almost by chance in a caption. Norvo (talk) 00:38, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

Archduke of Lotharingia and Austrasia??

Can somebody provide any sources for the usage and claims to an Archduke title existing before the Austrian one? I can't find anything concerning that matter. RudolftheFree (talk) 22:41, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

Honestly, I´ve never ever read or heard something about an Archduke title besides the Austrian one. Also the Britannica only mentions the Austrian one (https://www.britannica.com/topic/archduke). I highly doubt that those further ones mentioned here ever existed, and therefore no sources exist. --93.83.122.90 (talk) 17:13, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

@RudolftheFree: It is applied honorifically to Bruno the Great of Lotharingia in the 10th c. because he was both an archbishop and a duke, but the Merovingian claim looks to be invented (the citation I have given in the article expressly says there are no other sources for it), so I have removed it. —Nizolan ^{(talk · c.)} 11:41, 11 May 2020 (UTC)