Talk:Arc formeret

Translation and terminology notes

This text combines material translated and adapted from French Wikipedia's Arc formeret, revision 227696898 (30 July 2025, 12:22 UTC) and German Wikipedia's Schildbogen, revision 267986296 (16 June 2026, 16:27 UTC). English terminology and the lead definition were checked against Cyril M. Harris's Dictionary of Architecture & Construction, fourth edition (2006), printed page 48.

Definition and scope

• Harris's definition: the entry identifies the feature with a wall arch or wall rib and includes the corresponding rib beside the arcade separating a nave and an aisle. The English lead paraphrases this definition. The page was inspected in the fourth-edition e-book: printed page 48 is PDF page 62. The title page identifies Harris as the editor, and the copyright page gives 2006 and the print ISBN 0-07-145237-0.
• French restriction to aisled buildings: the French article says that formerets occur only when there are aisles, although it also defines them at the junction of a vault and a wall. This restriction is omitted because it conflicts with the broader wall-arch definition in Harris and the other sources. The assertion that transverse arches are always present is likewise not retained as a universal rule.
• Direction: the distinction between the longitudinal formeret and transverse arc doubleau is retained. The CNRTL entry defines the formeret by its position along the side of a bay and its relation to the vault's principal axis. Harris's adjacent arc doubleau entry confirms the transverse arrangement. This does not make every arch of a nave arcade itself a formeret: Harris refers to the corresponding rib beside the arcade.
• German usage: Schildbogen has a broader geometrical sense in the German source, encompassing the boundary between vault and wall even where there is no separate moulded member. This is distinguished from the physical wall arch or rib in the English definition. The German names Schildrippe, Schildbogenrippe, Wandrippe, Schildgurt and Wandgurt are retained as German terminology, rather than introduced as English synonyms.
• Form and function: the German discussion of plain vault–wall junctions and of ribs that articulate the wall is retained. Its canopy interpretation is attributed to Hans Sedlmayr. The text does not present that interpretation as a definition of all vaults.
• Historical account: Viollet-le-Duc's description of profiles and the development of window-head relieving arches is paraphrased and attributed. The relevant passage begins at the end of printed page 56 and continues on page 57; the short citation therefore gives pp. 56–57, rather than only p. 57. The reference identifies volume 1 (1854), not the date span of the entire dictionary.
• French etymology: the English-language Merriam-Webster entry traces formeret through French and Middle French to forme, glossed with senses referring to form and a large church window. This etymology is included with an {{sfn}} citation to the entry's etymology section. It does not match the French article's more specific explanation that the name arises from the shape of a vault panel perpendicular to the nave, so that explanation is not retained. No claim about the suffix or a date of first English use is added.
• Repetition: the French article's repeated contrast with the transverse arch is consolidated into one paragraph.

References and verification

Harris's entry was read directly, and the CNRTL entry, Merriam-Webster etymology and Viollet-le-Duc transcription were checked. These definitions, the etymology and the historical discussion are supported by those sources; the source Wikipedia articles supply the translation and their reference lists.

Some citations are inherited from the German article and remain subject to verification:

• Koepf and Binding (2005), p. 417: the indexed text of the Schildbogen entry was accessible and supports the vault–wall definition and the English equivalent wall rib. The PDF URL cited by the German article returned HTTP 404, so the entire page and its separate Schildrippe entry were not inspected. OCR spellings in the indexed multilingual glossary were not adopted as English terminology.
• Lueger (1909), volume 7, p. 695: the Schildbogen citation is retained from the German article. The Zeno transcription could not be retrieved during preparation.
• Mothes (1884), volume 4, pp. 127–128: the Schildbogen and Schildrippe citations are retained. Heidelberg's digitisation pages presented an access challenge; their page images and text were not inspected.
• Sedlmayr (1976), p. 215: the bibliographical details and page citation are retained from the German article; the original book page was not independently inspected. The text is an attributed paraphrase of the German article, not a newly verified direct quotation from Sedlmayr.

The French article's references to Jean-Marie Pérouse de Montclos, Architecture, méthode et vocabulaire (1972), and V. Flipo, Mémento pratique d'archéologie française (1930), were not inspected. Their general definition and contrast are instead supported here by Harris and CNRTL; they are not added as unused bibliography entries.

Викидим (talk) 06:56, 21 September 2026 (UTC)