Talk:Arabs

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 28 January 2026

In the ‘Antiquity’ section, change “Sabaean was a South Arabian languaged” to “Sabaean was a South Arabian language” (remove ‘d’ at the end of ‘language’). ~2026-61053-5 (talk) 10:41, 28 January 2026 (UTC)

 Done Largoplazo (talk) 11:08, 28 January 2026 (UTC)

Arabs should be ethnolinguistic

For example, Sudanese and Moroccans and Saudis are very distinctive but with the same language so it's basically ethnolingustic ThatMister144 (talk) 14:41, 22 February 2026 (UTC)

Even the picture of Hager, an Abyssinia, is Europeanized?

Hager, of Northeast Africa, the mother of Ismail, who is rarely referred to as the grand-mother of Arabs is depicted as a woman of European phenotype in this article. Similar to the distortions of Prophet Isa (Jesus) and his mother Marium, we are lead to believe that all religious figures were Europeans when in fact none of them were Europeans. White supremacy is so deeply rooted into modern versions of every religious explains why they are so devoid of spirituality. Trump is a modern example of the European's obsessions with claiming and white washing everything, even Allah (GOD). Please, put up a photo of a woman whose appearance is similar to an north east African woman or better don't put up a picture at all. ~2026-13454-57 (talk) 12:36, 2 March 2026 (UTC)

While I don't necessarily agree with everything in this comment, it is true that the painting shows Hager with a European face and that the image is misleading. I'm removing it, feel free to find one more realistic. Zero^talk 05:03, 3 March 2026 (UTC)

Suggestion for inclusion

Hi, I would like to suggest adding more material on the historical Arab footprint. The page could include sections or expanded coverage on Arabs in Sicily, al-Andalus, the Maghreb, the Banu Hilal migration/invasion, Arab presence in South Asia, and Arab influence in East Africa. It may also be useful to include pre-Islamic Arab dynasties such as the Abgarids of Osroene, which represent an early documented Arab political presence before Islam. --TruthRevealedMan (talk) 00:04, 9 March 2026 (UTC)

If you have sources for such material, you're welcome to attempt these additions. Cordless Larry (talk) 17:12, 9 March 2026 (UTC)

Bible/Qur'an Mentions

The introduction contains the line "Other prominent tribes include Midian,[clarification needed] ʿĀd, and Thamud mentioned in the Bible and Quran." As written this is ambiguous if not misleading: the tribe of Midian is indeed mentioned in both, but ʿĀd and Thamud are never even mentioned in the Bible; of these two sources, only the Qur'an even names either. As written it implies that all three tribes are mentioned in both sources, which is incorrect. It should be edited to remove this implication. ~2026-18968-31 (talk) 19:35, 1 May 2026 (UTC)

Sources to make this article more representative of the various definitions of Arab

• The Controversy of the Term Arab/s throughout Time Tiamut (talk) 15:01, 25 May 2026 (UTC)

It is shocking to me that this page does not mention "Arabized Arabs" and instrad focuses solely on a contested "pure ethnic" definition. Tiamut (talk) 15:02, 25 May 2026 (UTC)

• Facets of Arab Identity Tiamut (talk) 15:12, 25 May 2026 (UTC)
• Arab are difficult to define and are perhaps best characterized as an ethno-linguistic group with some shared history. This is evident in some of the context of this article without being made explicit. Different Caliphates listed in the history section were not "ethnically" Arab (sometimes Kurdish or Turkic etc) but are considered part of Arab history and heritage by virtue of their participation in building an Arabic cultural-linguistic sphere. Tiamut (talk) 15:22, 25 May 2026 (UTC)

  Every single ethnicity is in fact an ETHNOLINGUISTIC group.

  Take the Greeks as a prime example. The very word "Greek" is a Roman exonym derived from the 'Graeci', which was originally just a single specific tribe in the region, later applied broadly by outsiders to all Hellenes. Furthermore, a massive portion of the people recorded in antiquity as "Greeks" were simply Hellenized populations. Across Anatolia, the Levant, and Ptolemaic Egypt, diverse indigenous groups adopted the Greek language, religion, and culture over centuries without necessarily sharing deep ancestral roots with the original Ionian populations. If we dismiss ethnicities based on assimilation and shifting labels, the ancient Greek identity is heavily reliant on cultural umbrella terms.

  In contrast, when discussing ethnicities with documented historical depth and demonstrable genetic continuity, the Arabs stand out significantly. The process of Arabization during the historical expansions was almost never a purely cultural or linguistic shift happening in a vacuum. It was driven by tangible, large-scale demographic movements. You cannot find a historically Arabized region that did not experience actual genetic admixture from migrating Arab tribes. When looking at modern autosomal DNA profiles across these regions, or tracking the phylogenetic distribution of specific paternal lineages like the J-M267 haplogroup, there is a clear, undeniable genetic footprint mapping the historical migrations out of the Arabian Peninsula.

  The foundational framework of Arab history was built by these actual, migrating ethnic Arabs. While non-Arabs eventually interacted with and contributed to the broader Islamic civilization, they didn't create it, the core demographic engine, the early and later conquests, and the architects of Arab history were ethnic Arabs carrying their own lineages. To suggest that Arab history is merely the product of culturally assimilated people, while erasing the core demographic and genetic reality of the Arab populations who actually drove those historical events, is simply false. ~2026-36961-19 (talk) 13:07, 26 June 2026 (UTC)