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Latest comment: 8 months ago by TarnishedPath in topic Did you know nomination

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In the section "Personal life", after the first sentence, I suggest the following amendment: She moved to Golden Bay / Mohua in 2005. As of 2025, she lives in Patons Rock.[1] Schwede66 02:22, 1 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

 Done-Gadfium (talk) 05:02, 1 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

Did you know nomination

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. You can locate your hook here. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by TarnishedPath talk 06:07, 11 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

Angela Pack in 2025
Angela Pack in 2025
  • ... that when advocating for the introduction of dental hygienists to New Zealand, Angela Pack (pictured) called the New Zealand Dental Council Board “lily-livered chickens”? Source: "...older practitioners did not want to delegate periodontal treatment to a hygienist... After huge initial enthusiasm from Board members, the chairman (an older practitioner) tactically deferred the vote on this critically important decision until the very end of a long and tiring meeting. Angela felt the momentum for hygienist training had evaporated. She therefore asked the male Board members “why they were behaving like a load of lily-livered chickens” when they had all been so enthusiastic the previous day"[2]
    • ALT1: ... that periodontist Angela Pack (pictured) called the New Zealand Dental Council Board “lily-livered chickens”? Source: as above
    • ALT2: ... that Angela Pack's (pictured) interview for a lectureship in New Zealand was conducted in a London pub? Source: "Angela applied for a Lectureship in Periodontology at the University of Otago in New Zealand, for which a notice had circulated at RDH. Allowable in those days, her interview was a lunch time chat in a smoke-filled pub with Professor Alister Smilie from Otago University, on sabbatical leave in London."[3]
    • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Araminta's Wedding
Created by DrThneed (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 21 past nominations.

DrThneed (talk) 23:07, 5 October 2025 (UTC).Reply

References

  1. Hayter, Rebecca (23 May 2025). "Golden Bay's periodontal pioneer" (PDF). GB Weekly. p. 2. Retrieved 1 October 2025.
  2. Stanley Gelbier (2025). "Angela Pack MNZM BDS PhD LDS FDS. From London Graduate to New Zealand Fighter for Women in Dentistry and Dental Hygienists". Bulletin of the History of Dentistry. 73 (2): 167–178. doi:10.58929/JHD.2025.073.02.167. ISSN 0007-5132. PMID 40706066. Wikidata Q136399027.
  3. Stanley Gelbier (2025). "Angela Pack MNZM BDS PhD LDS FDS. From London Graduate to New Zealand Fighter for Women in Dentistry and Dental Hygienists". Bulletin of the History of Dentistry. 73 (2): 167–178. doi:10.58929/JHD.2025.073.02.167. ISSN 0007-5132. PMID 40706066. Wikidata Q136399027.
    General: Article is new enough and long enough
    Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
    Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
    Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
    QPQ: Done.

    Overall: Interesting read, thanks for writing! Article meets all the requirements per table above. I prefer ALT0/ALT2 to ALT1 (as I think the 'lily-livered chickens' comment benefits from context). Also have a possible ALT3 suggestion:

    @Zzz plant: Thanks for the review. I think ALT3 makes it sound as if the board if the Otago Polytechnic board (when it was in fact the board for the national Dental Council). If you want mention in the hook of why she called them names, then perhaps I can propose
    Alt4: ... that periodontist Angela Pack (pictured) called the Dental Council board "lily-livered chickens" for hesitating to allow training of dental hygienists in New Zealand?
    But I'm not sure that's materially different to ALT0! DrThneed (talk) 21:11, 8 November 2025 (UTC)Reply
        • Great catch with the implication of ALT3, I've struck that suggestion. I prefer ALT4 > ALT0, I like that even in ~100 characters the reader gets more of a sense for what's going on / and that the chicken remark refers to cowardice. Also nice that it avoids repetition of NZ! Approved with ALT4 Zzz plant (talk) 21:34, 8 November 2025 (UTC)Reply