Talk:American Association of University Professors
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Citations and Sources
[edit]I believe that this article should be edited to reflect more or better sources. The article almost exclusively relies on citations that originate directly from the subject of the article itself. Even with that being the case, large portions of the article are not cited at all, particularly in the sections on focused on collective bargaining and contingent faculty, although other information that is not appropriately cited exists. WhySoMan (talk) 15:34, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
Anti-semitism issues / politicization
[edit]It should be mentioned in the article that in recent years the AAUP has seemed to be very eager to get itself involved in issues such as BDS and the IHRA definition of hatred of Jews, and some of these interventions were overall poorly conceived and poorly received. AnonMoos (talk) 22:16, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
- Well we could certainly mention specific cases, such as the AAUP's support of anti-Semitic conspiracy theorists like Joy Karega, and Ward Churchill. The AAUP has also supported faculty who engage in threats and violent acts such as Melissa Click, Eric Clanton, and, Tariq Khan. HoundofBaskersville (talk) 20:52, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
Article length
[edit]This article seems long and includes too much detail. It is written like an organizational website. Should it be pared down? ABT021 (talk) 12:12, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
- I think it is pretty good. Are there particular areas you think need to be trimmed? Jjazz76 (talk) 16:59, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
Is it a labor union? Are its chapters labor unions? Does it have some relationship to labor unions?
[edit]The article basically doesn't use the word "union", and its lead section doesn't say anything related to the labor union movement. This seems odd to me, because I have seen articles in reliable sources that refer to a chapter of the AAUP as a union and a letter with an AAUP letterhead that seems to clearly be a letter from a union. The infobox just says this is a charitable organization. As I understand it, labor unions are not charities. The article about Labor unions in the United States does not contain the word "charity" or anything similar. There is one curious paragraph deep in the article body that refers to "support for collective bargaining chapters", whatever that means. Maybe it means that some of its chapters engage in collective bargaining, but I didn't find any sentence saying that directly. The next sentence in that paragraph says the organization is "Unlike ... more traditional labor unions", which seems to indicate that it might be a labor union, albeit one that is not "traditional", whatever that means. This organization was founded in 1915, and that seems early enough in the history of the labor union movement to not be something formed as an alternative to other things that are more traditional. The next sentence talks about the subset of its affiliates "that are not affiliated with any other labor union" (emphasis added), but doesn't mention what it is referring to as not being the "other". This should be clarified, and I suggest that the clarification should affect the content of the lead section. The lead section currently does not mention collective bargaining or labor unions. — BarrelProof (talk) 15:36, 18 April 2025 (UTC)
- @BarrelProof - From what I understand, AAUP recently affiliated with AFT. And for some time, SOME AAUP chapters have been unions. But I'm not clear when that started. To me, I'm not seeing examples of unionized chapters before the 1960s. And I think there are statements from AAUP before then sort of rejecting the labor movement. But any info you could add to help clear up what I think is a bit of a complex relationship with the labor movement would be greatly appreciated! Jjazz76 (talk) 17:54, 4 May 2025 (UTC)
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