Talk:America First Legal

Obsolete medical model

Saving the government a minimum of one trillion annually. www.energy-of-life.com describes only one of three 174.31.65.6 (talk) 06:21, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

Project 2025 Advisory Board

Here is the claim we got: "Until July 2024, America First Legal [AFL] was a member of the advisory board of Project 2025, a collection of conservative and right-wing policy proposals from The Heritage Foundation to reshape the United States federal government and consolidate executive power should the Republican nominee win the 2024 presidential election.[15][16]"

The first citation does not mention AFL. The second says: "Last week, America First Legal asked to be removed from the Project 2025 advisory board webpage." No link has been provided to that webpage. The only links we got are for two press releases from February 2024 and June 2022. AFL appears on both. There's no evidence of where is that advisory board webpage in that citation, and when did AFL disappeared from the page. Only looking at archive.today under https://www.project2025.org/about/advisory-board/ confirms the claim.

(Newsweek published a 2024-07-10 list with 110 names, with AFL still on it. That may explain why AFL tried to disappear from it.)

So what exactly is Project 2025 Advisory Board? It could be what we could read on a project website, or it could be what we read in a perennial document, like books and press releases. It can't be both, for the two sources contradict one another.

Here is one problem with going with the website. AFL is not listed on the Advisory board webpage on April 25, 2023. It only appears in the late July archived version, around the time the Heritage's shop started to sell the book, at least according to the archives. Yet AFL appears in the June, 2022 press release.

Writing a 900-page document takes time. Many AFL staffers are thanked in the document, Gene Hamilton wrote a chapter, and there is the Winter 2022 press release. It would make little sense to follow the website and hold that AFL entered the advisory board in July, 2023.

While we should say that that AFL tried to distance itself from Project 2025, we should emphasize that AFL contributed to the policy guide. Not much weight should be given to the act of getting out of an advisory board once the document is being published.

Miller's move seems to exploit an equivocation over "Project 2025". The expression can either refer to the 900-page document, or to the four-pillars project, one of which is the 900-page document. Even then that looks like a sideshow, for the three other pillars are almost non-existent.

My interest in these questions goes beyond the claim I'm trying to qualify on the page. An issue needs to be fixed here: AFL disappeared from a website that doesn't exist anymore, at least since May 2025. (Project2025 dot org now redirects to the Mandate for Leadership series, selling the paper edition of the 2023 volume.) The website is clearly unreliable when compared to the other sources. Selbsportrait (talk) 05:04, 19 June 2025 (UTC)

roles in second Trump administration

Like in America First Policy Institute (related to AFL?), this article should add a section about AFL alumni who have been hired in the second Trump administration. rootsmusic (talk) 17:31, 14 December 2025 (UTC)

Could you list a few? Magnolia677 (talk) 17:58, 14 December 2025 (UTC)

I don't know AFL's notable alumni, because I've only learned from this article. From the names in Leadership, Stephen Miller is the Deputy Chief of Staff for Policy (Matthew Whitaker is an ambassador). But the second administration is just in its first year. rootsmusic (talk) 18:19, 14 December 2025 (UTC)