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Requested move 25 December 2024

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Bobby Cohn (talk) 19:59, 28 January 2025 (UTC)

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Alas (East Timor) → Alas, Timor-Leste – It is doubtful that "Alas (East Timor)" is the official name of this populated place. Part of a cleanup for East Timor articles after it was agreed that the modern country should be called Timor-Leste. Alas is a disambiguation page. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 22:15, 25 December 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Frost 15:14, 2 January 2025 (UTC) — Relisting. Arbitrarily0 ^(talk) 16:24, 9 January 2025 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky (talk) 18:32, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

• Support per nom. Crouch, Swale (talk) 21:50, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
• Comment this should be held, and continue to be relisted until Wikipedia:Move review § Timor-Leste has been resolved, as that would impact this discussion. TiggerJay (talk) 05:12, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

Relisting comment: Given the recent closure of the parent topic, which is closed as move to 'Timor Leste'. See Talk:East_Timor#Requested_move_16_December_2024. – robertsky (talk) 18:32, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose the change to disambiguation style. Disambiguation isn't a matter of official name, but Wikipedia usage. (The official name is "Alas".) CMD (talk) 01:47, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
• Comment Just reverted a page move performed while this RM was open by a new disruptive user. TiggerJay (talk) 22:22, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
• Support. Either Alas, Timor-Leste or Alas, East Timor as per other places in Category:Populated places in Timor-Leste and as per the policy Wikipedia:Article titles#Disambiguation. Which reads, in part, "With place names, if the disambiguating term is a higher-level administrative division, it is often separated using a comma instead of parentheses". CambridgeBayWeather (solidly non-human), Uqaqtuq (talk), Huliva 23:14, 23 January 2025 (UTC)

  There is no place in Category:Populated places in Timor-Leste with this format. These are not higher-level administrative divisions, they are towns. CMD (talk) 02:12, 24 January 2025 (UTC)

  What's Same, East Timor and Suai, Timor-Leste doing in Category:Populated places in Timor-Leste? Are they not populated? Alas is a town as is Same. CambridgeBayWeather (solidly non-human), Uqaqtuq (talk), Huliva 02:58, 24 January 2025 (UTC)

  Oh, I misunderstood you. The "higher-level administrative division" referred to in the policy is the disambiguation term and not the town or city. For example British Columbia is the disambiguation term for Terrace, British Columbia and Alaska is for Anchorage, Alaska. CambridgeBayWeather (solidly non-human), Uqaqtuq (talk), Huliva 03:04, 24 January 2025 (UTC)

  Well Suai shouldn't be there, I've requested an RMUN. Didn't see Same. If I have misunderstood higher-level administrative division, then we should probably reconsider all these disambiguations, as the towns have the same name as their districts/posts. CMD (talk) 03:11, 24 January 2025 (UTC)

Support sensible decision in line with the main article's move. Turnagra (talk) 22:30, 24 January 2025 (UTC)

Support now that the East Timor article has been moved to Timor-Leste, all articles about a city, town or village in Timor-Leste requiring disambiguation should be named as either "[name of settlement], Timor-Leste" or '[name of settlement], [name of relevant municipality or suco]". Such a naming convention would be in line with a neighbouring country, Australia, eg Arthur River, Western Australia is an article about the town, and Arthur River (Western Australia) is an article about the river. Bahnfrend (talk) 02:56, 25 January 2025 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.