Talk:Abigail Hawk

Redirect

I've created this because it was a requested biography here. I'm aware that at this point in time she's only really known for the Blue Bloods character, however there's the potential here for her to become more notable for other projects in the future. To that end I've created an article and made it into a redirect so that when/if this happens, there's an article history to pull from. It should not be restored until she's had a substantial role in something that has received enough coverage to where it'd merit its own article. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 13:41, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

• @Tokyogirl79: That time has come. Cheers! bd2412 T 19:42, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

Social Media Account

@NacreousPuma855 I did read the policy carefully and so should you. It explicitly mentions social media accounts as a justified example. She does not have an official website. WP:ELOFFICIAL Wikipedia:ELMINOFFICIAL "Official links (if any) are provided to give the reader the opportunity to see what the subject says about itself. These links are normally exempt from the links normally to be avoided,.....More than one official link should be provided only when the additional links provide the reader with significant unique content and are not prominently linked from other official websites. For example, if the main page of the official website for an author contains a link to the author's blog and Twitter/X feed, then it is not appropriate to provide links to all three. Instead, provide only the main page of the official website in this situation." newsjunkie (talk) 23:33, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

I'm not going to discuss about the WP:NOSOCIAL policy, which you are trying to avoid talking. Stop trying to go the hard way. Every time someone undoes your unreliable sources, you ping them on the article's talk page and then draw them into a WP:WALLOFTEXT. Not only do you waste their time, but this is also WP:BLUDGEONING the talk page. NacreousPuma855 (talk) 23:46, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

External links are different from references in the article, as the guidelines permit for officially controlled accounts. "These links are normally exempt from the links normally to be avoided." (which includes social media accounts and others) newsjunkie (talk) 23:49, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

Also see the Guidelines here for further explanation WP:INSTAGRAM

• As an external link: Generally no. Regular websites are strongly preferred, but exceptions are made for official links when the subject of the article has no other Web presence.
• As a reliable source: Sometimes. The official page of a subject may be used as a self-published, primary source, but only if it can be authenticated as belonging to the subject. (See Wikipedia:Verifiability#Self-published sources.)

newsjunkie (talk) 00:01, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

They have a web presence on IMDb, there's no need for the social media accounts. This is ridiculous. WP:NOTLISTENING to other users, and WP:BLUDGEONING talk pages with WP:WALLSOFTEXT all over the encyclopedia has been consistent from you. NacreousPuma855 (talk) 00:12, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

An IMDB page is not an official page controlled by the person in question, it is user generated and can be edited by anyone and in fact the actress has stated that her IMDB page has incorrect information about her birthplace (it says Chicago, but as it correctly says here, she was born in Atlanta). I am simply referring to the actual policies. newsjunkie (talk) 00:15, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

An official web presence on social media controlled by the person in question is very different from IMDB. WP:IMDB-EL "The IMDb website generally contains more information than the Wikipedia article, including information that cannot be integrated into the Wikipedia article due to amount of detail. However, content is user-submitted and therefore not generally reliable. (This includes biographies, which cannot be directly edited.)" newsjunkie (talk) 00:22, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

I would tend to agree that the IMDb page is not a "web presence" in the sense of an individual having a web presence, anymore than a Wikipedia page about a subject is the subject having a web presence. BD2412 T 01:03, 20 May 2025 (UTC)