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Latest comment: 1 month ago by Melbguy05 in topic Possible AI generated text

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Remove subsection on US deployment in Australia

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The AUKUS pact is for sharing information on science, technology and industry. The pact didn't announce that the size and type of US military based in Australia would be increased or that the UK military would be based in Australia. The pact was announced on the 15 September US time.[1][2][3] Separately, the annual Joint Statement Australia-U.S. Ministerial Consultations (AUSMIN) was held the following day on the 16th in which it was announced the size of the US military based in Australia would be increased. The meeting endorsed recommendations made in May 2021 to increase the size but did not release any details with US Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin saying "we will continue to explore" and "which I won’t go into today".[4][5] The answer by Austin that AUKUS does not have specific reciprocal requirements such as Australia hosting intermediate range missiles mentioned in the subsection, and cited by The Guardian, is relevant and can be retained elsewhere in the article. AUSMIN endorsed increasing logistics and sustainment capabilities of U.S. subsurface vessels in Australia which is relevant. Increasing the size of the US deployment can be mentioned in the following articles: Australia–United States relations, Australian Defence Force, Marine Rotational Force – Darwin, Royal Australian Navy and Royal Australian Air Force.--Melbguy05 (talk) 08:05, 2 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

Removed subsection keeping intermediate range missiles moved to Long-range guided missiles subsection.--Melbguy05 (talk) 14:29, 3 October 2021 (UTC)Reply
"The AUKUS pact is for sharing information on science, technology and industry", yes, but that is really only the umbrella. It wouldn't take 18 months of secret negotiations to get that done, or would it? It is my belief that the pact would contain a rubber clause under which more US troops can be stationed here, at our costs, of course. We are now contributing to the war effort with participation in the hyperspeed weaponry. I am convinced anything will follow that serves the goal to 'combat China's increasing influence' (terminology of an ABC TV reporter). 2001:8003:A070:7F00:80D4:69B9:131D:5E09 (talk) 06:01, 9 April 2022 (UTC)Reply
More than two years later we can say that we observed the US troops stationed here increase in number. But we could not say that whether that comes through AUKUS or through other contracts. Australians were surprised by that announcement in September 2021 so democracy was violated. 2001:8003:A070:7F00:859A:5FC1:EEA0:E454 (talk) 00:46, 22 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

References

  1. Prime Minister of Australia Scott Morrison; Prime Minister of the United Kingdom Boris Johnson; President of the United States of America Joseph R. Biden (16 September 2021). "Joint Leaders Statement on AUKUS". Prime Minister of Australia (Press release). Retrieved 25 September 2021.
  2. Prime Minister of Australia Scott Morrison; Prime Minister of the United Kingdom Boris Johnson; President of the United States of America Joseph R. Biden (15 September 2021). "Remarks by President Biden, Prime Minister Morrison of Australia, and Prime Minister Johnson of the United Kingdom Announcing the Creation of AUKUS". The White House. Retrieved 2 October 2021.
  3. Prime Minister; Minister for Defence; Minister for Foreign Affairs; Minister for Women (16 September 2021). "Australia to pursue Nuclear-powered Submarines through new Trilateral Enhanced Security Partnership". Prime Minister of Australia (Press release). Retrieved 25 September 2021.
  4. "Joint Statement on Australia-U.S. Ministerial Consultations (AUSMIN) 2021". U.S. Department of State (Press release). 16 September 2021. Retrieved 2 October 2021.
  5. US Secretary of State Antony Blinken; US Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin; Australian Foreign Minister Marise Payne; Australian Defence Minister Peter Dutton (16 September 2021). "Secretary Antony J. Blinken, Secretary of Defense Lloyd J. Austin III, Australian Foreign Minister Marise Payne, and Australian Defence Minister Peter Dutton At a Joint Press Availability". U.S. Department of Defense. Retrieved 2 October 2021.

Adding enlargement section

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I think it would be a good idea to add a section that covers the potential enlargement of AUKUS. US Defence Secretary Blinken has already stated that the 'door is open' to other countries joining. There are plenty of articles linking Canada, Japan, New Zealand and South Korea in particular.

StevoLaker (talk) 16:54, 1 November 2023 (UTC)Reply

Critical UK comments

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I've removed the reference to opposition from Jeremy Corbyn and "Labour members". Corbyn is not notable as he was only an MP at the time and was no longer leader of the Opposition. I don't think a former LOTO was notable, as he was never a government minister. That contrasts with someone like Keating who was a former Australian Prime Minister.

As for the Labour "members", this was misleading and also non-notable. It could be read as meaning Labour MPs, but it was just Labour Party conference delegates, who had no power to set policy - and as noted above their party was only in Opposition. Maybe it could be re-added if there were supportive comments from the Opposition frontbench, e.g. "X supported the AUKUS announce, despite a vote from party members at conference [citation] that disapproved of the project". Otherwise it's not particularly relevant. John Smith's (talk) 19:14, 4 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

What gives, hombres?

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Can someone please explain how North Korea has a nuclear submarine, while the Land of Oz has to wait for years? Jack Upland (talk) 03:39, 15 March 2025 (UTC)Reply

Possible AI generated text

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Hi - I've added the AI generated template here, specifically regarding the edits by Ritwik Deuba; other edits by this user have shown indications of possible LLM use in the past, as do these. Thus they need review for accuracy, sourcing issues, possible NPOV/editorializing issues, and the like. In some cases they appear to be reusing some of this content across several articles. Gnomingstuff (talk) 17:01, 3 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

@Gnomingstuff: I have removed the edit by Ritwik Deuba as it was not relevant to the Australia subsection in "Comments and responses from participating countries" and the content was of no value to other sections. Do you have any concerns with removing the AI generated template? Melbguy05 (talk) 12:37, 14 June 2026 (UTC)Reply
I've removed the Template:AI-generated since the edits in question have been removed. Melbguy05 (talk) 11:22, 22 June 2026 (UTC)Reply