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Latest comment: 8 months ago by Howard the Duck in topic Is there anything I’ve missed?
Former good articleASEAN was one of the Social sciences and society good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
On this day... Article milestones
DateProcessResult
March 10, 2007Good article nomineeListed
June 8, 2009Good article reassessmentDelisted
November 30, 2012Good article nomineeNot listed
On this day... Facts from this article were featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "On this day..." column on August 8, 2004, August 8, 2005, August 8, 2006, August 8, 2007, August 8, 2008, August 8, 2011, and August 8, 2014.
Current status: Delisted good article

Unexplained content removal (September 2025)

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I have reverted a few edits by @36.68.19.170 which seemingly removed content about Indonesia being a member of ASEAN. There is still one edit I haven't reverted as I am at risk of breaching WP:3RR. If you are the IP editor I mentioned, could you please explain your edits? Fork99 (talk) 22:27, 16 September 2025 (UTC)Reply

Never mind, I believe I interpreted 3RR incorrectly. Fork99 (talk) 22:30, 16 September 2025 (UTC)Reply
Add the most recent edits by @2001:448A:1082:A440:B89B:A4E2:AFC7:E081 as well. Could someone please review these edits? I've not thoroughly checked the edits to see if they meet the definition of WP:NOBLANK. Fork99 (talk) 00:22, 17 September 2025 (UTC)Reply

Is there anything I’ve missed?

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I’ve just tried to change all the American spellings to British spellings in one edit. If I’ve missed any other words, please correct them too. Thanks, 2604:3D08:9476:BE00:7423:DA21:1BED:7A29 (talk) 02:47, 27 October 2025 (UTC)Reply

This has been reverted by someone else, and I would've reverted it myself as per MOS:RETAIN. Howard the Duck (talk) 19:50, 28 October 2025 (UTC)Reply
The article has been tagged with Template:Use British English for almost a decade now. Previous to IP's corrections, the article erroneously used a mixture of both British and American English. The whole purpose of MOS:RETAIN is consistency; given that things were previously a mixture even though it has long been decided that British English is what this article is to be written in, there should be no issue with fixing the errors to bring this article back in line with its ENGVAR standard.
Additionally, if we needed any more reinforcement, ASEAN itself uses British English. (example) RachelTensions (talk) 20:22, 28 October 2025 (UTC)Reply
FWIW, it was User:Iiii I I I who reverted the IP. FWIW, what is actually used on the article carries more weight than how the article was tagged; the tag should reflect current usage, and if non-BrE is the one that is being used, that should be retained, not what the tag is. Howard the Duck (talk) 20:29, 28 October 2025 (UTC)Reply
In that case, the "current usage" pushing to be retained is a mix of both British and American English. Seems like British English was used for the majority of the article's life, with more recent additions using American English. Should we not be bringing it back to the one that was established first? RachelTensions (talk) 20:36, 28 October 2025 (UTC)Reply
The article in 2004 uses the spellings "organization" and "stabilization". Now, even if the first English variant was (gasp!) AmE, MOS:RETAIN is plain: "When an English variety's consistent usage has been established in an article". It's not which variant was the first, but which "variety's consistent usage has been established". You can argue that since the IP had to change several AmE spellings to BrE ones, then at the very least BrE is not the variety that has "consistent usage". Howard the Duck (talk) 20:43, 28 October 2025 (UTC)Reply
The British English tag actually dated up to February 2015, when Seligne made major edits. On the last edit before that editor's edits, "defense" was spelled like that 44 times, while "defence" was spelled 7 times. "Organization" 35 times (excluding category names and when it appears on navboxes, while "organisation" 31 times. "-sation" appears 51 times, while "-zation" 66 times. Howard the Duck (talk) 21:07, 28 October 2025 (UTC)Reply