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The name ASCOD 2 apparently hasn't been used by GDELS since 2013, all press releases, brochures and the GDELS website (including archived versions) haven't included the name ASCOD 2 since then. At least by 2018, the vehicle covered in the article has been called ASCOD 42, although the name apparently also has been discontinued. Additionally, prior 2010 the name ASCOD 2 was used to refer to the Ulan as shown by the old Steyr SSF website. While a lot of news sites and private websites still utilize the name ASCOD 2, Wikipeida shouldn't use unofficial names. --EndlessUnknown (talk) 10:30, 27 December 2025 (UTC)Reply

...especially since it is not clear where the actual difference is that makes an ASCOD vehicle a 1 or a 2, instead there seem to be quite a number of iterative modifications to the same base vehicle, but not a clear cut with a completely new design (as with e.g. Leopard 1 and Leopard 2). The names rather seem to be marketing, or at least connected to the customer (ASCOD obviously involves the vehicles sold to Austria and Spain, but there is Ajax for Britain without officially mentioning "ASCOD", just as well as the "Hunter" sold to Latvia). So it might actually be a good idea to merge both articles into one (just "ASCOD" is probably the best lemma), and explain the various variants there.--OBrian (talk) 21:31, 10 June 2026 (UTC)Reply