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Latest comment: 11 years ago by StringTheory11 in topic List of nearby objects

Citations

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I do not understand this article needs more citations: There are 3 links to the original science publications over "2MASS" on the internet, the title article is an own citation of an scientific project, in the article there is a table with citations over the organizations who made the scientific project and the data sources. Is anywhere an article on Wikipedia with more citations than that article? Vibria (talk) 16:41, 20 September 2008 (UTC)Reply

I am late to answer this question, but quite often readers are looking for inline citations to verify what they are reading is from a reliable source. -- Kheider (talk) 16:05, 20 October 2011 (UTC)Reply

Additional references to add

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I'd like to expand this article, so as a placeholder for myself (and other interested editors), I'm putting links/citations for refs to use here.AstroCog (talk) 12:28, 26 October 2011 (UTC)Reply

Use of 2MASS in the 2MASS Redshift Survey (2MRS): article in Universe Today - with full sky image.
"In the course of an infrared census." Sky & Telescope; Feb2000, Vol. 99 Issue 2, p50
"2MASS Treasure Hunt". Sky & Telescope; Dec2000, Vol. 100 Issue 6, p54
"2MASS Project". Astronomy; Apr2001, Vol. 29 Issue 4, p22
"2MASS: Unveiling the Infrared Universe". Sky & Telescope; Jul2001, Vol. 102 Issue 1, p34-42
"How 2MASS Surveyed the Sky". Sky & Telescope; Jul2001, Vol. 102 Issue 1, p38-39
"All-sky survey makes Internet debut". Science News; 4/12/2003, Vol. 163 Issue 15, p237
"Experiments with Wide-Spectrum CCD Imaging". Astronomy; May2002, Vol. 30 Issue 5, p78
"Lost in space? Check the map". Astronomy; Aug2003, Vol. 31 Issue 8, p31
"Nearby Universe Mapped". Discover; Jan2007, Vol. 28 Issue 1, p49-49
"1.5 million galaxies revealed". Astronomy; Mar2008, Vol. 36 Issue 3, p41-43
"Alien visitor from afar". Science News; 7/4/2009, Vol. 176 Issue 1, p9-9
"The 2MASS Large Galaxy Atlas". T. H. Jarrett et al. 2003 The Astronomical Journal 125 525

Notability

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There is a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Astronomical objects#WISE object notability and Talk:WISEPC J150649.97+702736.0#Notability that has implications for 2MASS objects.

Specifically, the question being asked is whether a slightly more liberal notability test is appropriate for the closest objects to Sol, such as the nearest brown dwarfs discovered by WISE.

Comments welcome either here or on either of those two pages. The discussion on the WISE page should of course focus on WISE objects, that here on 2MASS objects, and that on the WikiProject talk page on astronomical objects generally. But there's some interconnection, equally obviously. Andrewa (talk) 07:03, 18 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

At the moment 2MASS survey is referred in numerous scientific papers. Where to find additional citations for impact this survey had on astronomy? --Artman40 (talk) 10:52, 13 November 2014 (UTC)Reply

I'd begin by looking at redshift, since the most important impact of 2MASS has been on redshift. I see that @Astrocog: has provided some nice sources above for a good start. StringTheory11 (t  c) 20:10, 13 November 2014 (UTC)Reply

List of nearby objects

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This table is not a useful addition to the article, for several reasons.

  • no explanation is given in the article as to why this information is important or relevant.
  • it violates NPOV, giving extremely excessive weight to a tiny aspect of the 2MASS survey.
  • it seems to be original research, having been compiled by a wikipedia editor rather than sourced from a reference.

No good reason has been given for its inclusion by the editor who is trying to force it in. The article is short so leave it in? Not a good reason. People have asked specifically for this information? Who? When? I suggested making a new article for this, which would be a perfectly good solution if you feel this information is valuable. Why did you reject that option? 201.215.187.159 (talk) 14:16, 29 June 2013 (UTC)Reply

"I don't like it" is not a good reason to blank material. Feel free to expand the article and/or create a section discussing 2MASS galaxies. There are people that are curious as to some of the closest objects discovered/studied by 2MASS. -- Kheider (talk) 11:50, 13 November 2014 (UTC)Reply
And I've removed it again. WP:UNDUE states that we must not give certain aspects of a situation undue weight over others. By including this table, nearby stars are given massively undue weight over much more scientifically important discoveries such as quasars and neutron stars. We already have list of nearest stars for information like this. StringTheory11 (t  c) 20:02, 13 November 2014 (UTC)Reply
Then we can leave it out. But I am not confident WP:UNDUE is meant to exclude a list of nearby brown dwarfs discovered by 2MASS just because no one bothered to take the time to expand the article about other types of objects discovered/studied by 2MASS. List of nearest stars and brown dwarfs does not mention how (or what survey) discovered an object. -- Kheider (talk) 21:17, 13 November 2014 (UTC)Reply
I think we could certainly include that information on a new column in that list. StringTheory11 (t  c) 21:56, 13 November 2014 (UTC)Reply
2MASS brown dwarfs and white dwarfs within 30 light-years include:
ObjectTypelySpectral
type
ConstellationRight
ascension
Declination
2MASS 0036+1821brown dwarf29L3.5Pisces00h 36m 16.17s18° 21 10.4
2MASS 0348-6022[1]brown dwarf25T7Reticulum03h 48m 07.72s−60° 22 27
2MASS 0415-0935brown dwarf18T8VEridanus04h 15m 19.54s−09° 35 06.6
2MASS 0727+1710brown dwarf28T7Gemini07h 27m 18.24s17° 10 01.2
2MASS 0729-3954[1]brown dwarf23T8pPuppis07h 29m 00.02s−39° 54 04.3
2MASS 0937+2931brown dwarf20T6Leo09h 37m 34.9s29° 31 41
2MASS 0939-2448brown dwarf17T8Antlia09h 39m 35.48s−24° 48 27.9
2MASS 1114-2618brown dwarf18T7.5Hydra11h 14m 51.337s−26° 18 23.56
2MASS 1503+2525[2]brown dwarf23T5Bootes15h 03m 19.61s25° 25 19.6
2MASS 1507-1627brown dwarf24L5Libra15h 07m 47.69s−16° 27 38.6
2MASS 1835+3259brown dwarf18M8.5Lyra18h 35m 37.902s32° 59 54.59
Gliese 293white dwarf26DC8.8Volans07h 53m 08.15s−67° 47 31.4
Gliese 440white dwarf15DQ6Musca11h 45m 42.9205s−64° 50 29.459
Gliese 518white dwarf27DZ10.0Virgo13h 36m 31.81s03° 40 45
Gliese 915white dwarf27DAP5.8Phoenix00h 02m 10.766s−43° 09 56.02
GJ 1087white dwarf26DAP8.9Orion05h 56m 25.47s05° 21 48.6
GJ 1221white dwarf20DQP9.0Draco17h 48m 08.17s70° 52 35.3
GJ 1289red dwarf26M4.0VAndromeda23h 43m 06.289s36° 32 13.24
Van Maanen's starwhite dwarf14DZ8Pisces00h 49m 09.90175s05° 23 19.0117
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