Talk:193rd Special Operations Wing

October 2008 Revising

Over the next few weeks I'll be rewriting this article, including in-line citations, and other various Wikipedia-style improvements. I'll also be adding more content, and various pictures etc... You can help! Mjf3719 (talk) 17:15, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

I notice that this page is in the category of Air Force Cyber Command units. Does anyone have a source? Mjf3719 (talk) 16:07, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Lineage

I have reversed the removal of the matter I placed in the "Background" section of the History. This removal was based on the hypothesis "if the lineage of the 193rd Special Operations Squadron is correct." It is not (and is unreferenced).

The full designation of the squadron when allotted to the National Guard was 148th Fighter Squadron, Single Engine (there was no Air National Guard in 1946)

Organization of the squadron on 3 January 1947, prior to receiving federal recognition in February, is omitted

The 10 February 1951 redesignation was to 148th Fighter-Interceptor Squadron, not to the designation it already held.

There was no inactivation in 1956. The squadron was redesignated the 140th Air Transport Squadron, Heavy on 1 May 1956

The squadron was redesignated the 140th Aeromedical Transport Squadron on 1 February 1957

The squadron was again designated the 140th Air Transport Squadron, Heavy in 1964, simultaneous with the organization of the 168th Air Transport Group (there was no conflict with the Colorado ANG unit(s), which were a wing and a group, not a squadron.) The 168th Materiel Squadron was inactivated in 1965 and replaced by the 168th Consolidated Aircraft Maintenance Squadron and the 168th Supply squadron)

The squadron, 168th Group, and support elements were inactivated in September 1967 and withdrawn from the Air National Guard. The 140th may have returned to its original number and have been allotted to the PA ANG later as the 148th Air Support Operations Squadron by 2009.

The 193rd Tactical Electronic Warfare Group and 193rd Tactical Electronic Warfare Squadron, as well as support squadrons were constituted on 13 1 September 1967, allotted to the ANG. activated and federally recognized a few days later. --Lineagegeek (talk) 19:39, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

Grand. That means of course that the 193 SOS page needs to be corrected, as well(!) Buckshot06 (talk) 07:22, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

Buckshot06 Not to mention 148th Fighter Squadron. The emblem use by the 148th of the "Kickin' Red Ass" of the 347th Fighter Squadron is suggestive (but not dispositive) of the 148th/140th reallocation to the ANG. The 148th used a different emblem as the 148th FIS. --Lineagegeek (talk) 20:53, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

Sure, I understand, if by dispositive you mean giving definitive proof. For tracking separate if not-totally-for-lineage-listing actions, things like the organization of the squadron on 3 Feb 47 should be included somewhere in the article, probably in text, with references, if not in the list. Otherwise we risk them being copied back in and having correct lineage information removed later, like we avoided when we put *both* lineages of the Eleventh Air Force back in the same article. Buckshot06 (talk) 00:20, 20 June 2022 (UTC)