Draft talk:CaseOh

"This draft was nominated for deletion on 21 March 2024. The result of the discussion was delete." Well then why isn't this draft deleted

Title 24.115.255.37 (talk) 21:24, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

Because it was recreated, nothing unusual around here. Also, what was deleted was actually an article, but the template works like that. In this particular case, you can read it as "[A previous draft or article on this subject] was nominated for deletion..." Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:29, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

Ahhhhhh makes sense 24.115.255.37 (talk) 02:38, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

Deb salted this article name space with the comment "Repeatedly created A7 article". See CaseOh red templates for more deletions and moves. JFHJr (㊟) 02:54, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

@JFHJr, was it really necessary to just replace the content with "CaseOh exists"? That is just pure laziness. 48JCL 13:44, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

Aren't you a vandalism only IP? 48JCL 13:43, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

Who, me? I vandalized articles in 2021 when I was like 11. I don't vandalize anymore. 24.115.255.37 (talk) 03:44, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

I'm baffled as to why User:48JCL created this draft. It doesn't seem like they are taking it seriously. Maybe they'd like to comment. Deb (talk) 07:18, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

In their defense, they didn't start the draft in the current form: Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:23, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

@Deb, I did not create the draft with just "CaseOh exists." That is just lazy asf and annoying, so I would not care if you A7'd it.48JCL 13:41, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

Thanks. It's hard to justify A7 for a draft but no doubt someone will. Deb (talk) 14:36, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

Well, there's all this. Perhaps draft creation protection could be kicked up a notch. If someone wants to work on this undisturbed, registered users have sandbox space. JFHJr (㊟) 02:56, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

@Deb, the creator's comment above might be a basis for WP:G7, but your mileage might vary. If the creator made an unambiguous request for deletion due to infeasibility, that would suffice for any admin. That would also give a fresh editing history to any more private sandbox efforts (as opposed to moving/porting manually). JFHJr (㊟) 03:50, 22 June 2024 (UTC)

Fails "sole author"... IMO, this draft can remain atm, it may be useful as a place to point newly arrived fans to. But I'm not going to fight for it. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:09, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

Hello, new editor

@1228355310edits, welcome to Wikipedia. If you intend to write about living people on WP, take the time to read WP:BLP. On this website, sources like WP:FAMOUSBIRTHDAYS (if you intended to use it as a source) are not good enough. We're also very careful about copyright, and the default assumption is that any random pic you find online is under copyright and can't be used. Some people upload stuff on YouTube under a free license, but this is rare, and CaseOh is not one of them, afaik. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:25, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

Here we go again

User:CaseOhheartattack/sandbox. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:18, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

JFHJr Containment breach: Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:17, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

Is what's needed a bigger container? JFHJr (㊟) 21:53, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

Full name and DOB

See WP:DOB and don't add it without a solid WP:BLP-good source. This could be a CNN-article, or a WP:ABOUTSELF source where he CLEARLY says his full DOB. A YT video where he does this can be acceptable, but a time-stamp (at what point in the video does he say this CLEARLY, yelling "this guy is the feds!" is not that) is necessary so other editors can check this isn't made up. On using other peoples YT-videos etc for this, see WP:BLPSPS.

Also, there is no need for a WP-article to include full name and DOB, it doesn't affect WP:N in any way. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:41, 30 April 2025 (UTC)

Vice article

There is a vice article that discusses him/his work in part. Just wanted to mention this because it's not been used in the draft. KnowDeath (talk) 20:30, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

I added it as an external link. It's valid but it's not being used to underpin any current content. Cheers! JFHJr (㊟) 21:31, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 21 May 2025

CaseOh (born: May 9, 1998 [age 27]),[2][3] formerly known as randomsimplestuf35,[4] is an American[5] YouTuber, Twitch streamer, and TikTok creator, known for streaming and playing a variety of games across his social media platforms. CaseOh gained significant attention starting in late 2022 through early 2023, which has continued to the present day. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Trustpuff (talk • contribs) 00:08, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

• Declined. No reliable source is offered. JFHJr (㊟) 00:19, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

WP:AFC declined June 11, 2025

I declined this AFC submission by Trustpuff (talk • contribs) because this is not the subject of significant coverage by multiple reliable sources. At submission the sources offered 1) provided passing mention instead of coverage significantly about CaseOh; or 2) were WP:PRIMARY sources (related parties) or interviews. No nominations or awards mentioned lend to notability. What's required is in-depth of CaseOh by multiple unrelated parties who aren't interviewing him. JFHJr (㊟) 23:19, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

As a reviewer myself I fully endorse the decline. The draft may seem to have significant coverage in reliable sources, but a quick spot indicates that the sources do not establish towards notability. Before resubmitting, you should provide at least three best sources that make the subject notable per WP:NBIO. On another note, I am thinking about the Game Awards; is it supposed to be a "well-known/significant award", and therefore make the subject pass WP:ANYBIO? ToadetteEdit (talk) 05:02, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

It's up to editors, ANYBIO has this preceding text: People are likely to be notable if they meet any of the following standards. Failure to meet these criteria is not conclusive proof that a subject should not be included; conversely, meeting one or more does not guarantee that a subject should be included.

IMO, The Game Awards helps a bit, but apparently it hasn't caused any in-depth RS coverage. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 05:20, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

Right. If the AFC submission had significant coverage of the award in a non-WP:BLPSPS/WP:PRIMARY format, I'd think differently of its mention's value for AFC purposes. JFHJr (㊟) 05:50, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

There is the WP:DEXERTO one, it's not that good for WP:N, but it's certainly good enough that he got the award, as would a primary source. I don't consider this svg.com good enough for WP:BLP-use. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:10, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

What the heck are we trying to achieve with this article, because it is pointless aimlessly editing an article, trying to fix it, not realizing we are only making it more hopeless. Glazer029 (talk) 17:44, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

This is a WP:DRAFT because it is unfit for article namespace (mainspace). It's here forever, unless it goes 6 months without another hopeless edit. In that case, it gets a speedy. JFHJr (㊟) 18:19, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

...or meets WP:42/WP:GNG for publication. But this looks unlikely without future WP:RS coverage. JFHJr (㊟) 18:23, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

PS. This draft will need an admin to move and/or approve any AfC. If it's accepted by a non-admin at AfC, the submitter should be prepared to ping an admin to overcome the WP:SALT this namespace has earned. JFHJr (㊟) 18:27, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

@Glazer029 the salt was temporary at first. Now it's indefinite due to recent recreation. The workspace is only here now, so if developments occur, they'll be here. JFHJr (㊟) 00:02, 6 August 2025 (UTC)

WP:DOB, again

@Dabmasterars Where does the source you added state his WP:DOB? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 20:57, 1 July 2025 (UTC)

It states his age directly in the article, although, now that I think about it, a birth date would've been preferable. It is GR, at least. Dabmasterars (talk/contribs) 07:45, 2 July 2025 (UTC)

@Dabmasterars It states his age at a specific time, per that info there are 2 possible birth years (depends on if his birthday had already been or not), there is a template for that. You obviously took the full DOB from somewhere else. WP:DOB:s are not gold to be mined, if you don't have a WP:BLP good source for it, don't add it. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:52, 2 July 2025 (UTC)

Earlier comment on this at Draft_talk:CaseOh#Full_name_and_DOB. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:01, 2 July 2025 (UTC)

New sources

Compared to much we've seen so far, these aren't that bad, and I think they add to the case for WP:GNG. Afaict, they're not obviously paid advertorials (WP:NEWSORGINDIA). Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:11, 6 August 2025 (UTC)

Also, mentioned in a book:. It's a passing mention, but it does say "gained immense popularity." Bottom of page. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:43, 7 August 2025 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Source assessment/CaseOh should be mentioned on this talkpage. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:44, 7 August 2025 (UTC)

What should we call him in article text?

Baker or CaseOh? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 12:30, 7 August 2025 (UTC)

Poll the sources; we should reflect what they say. I think across publications' headlines, he's primarily called CaseOh, even though his real name is usually also mentioned. I'm not sure how many of them switch to using only his real name after the mention. JFHJr (㊟) 19:04, 7 August 2025 (UTC)

Declined again (!), but

@Theroadislong In fairness, I'd like to point out that there's been some improvement since the last (listed) submission. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 18:57, 31 August 2025 (UTC)

• An interview was added and a dead link ref . Theroadislong (talk) 19:10, 31 August 2025 (UTC)

  I was thinking of the book, Hindustan Times and Times of India. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:17, 31 August 2025 (UTC)

  Wikipedia:TIMESOFINDIA is not generally considered a reliable source, but if you feel strongly about the rejection, feel free to revert me. Theroadislong (talk) 19:35, 31 August 2025 (UTC)

  Not strongly, no. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:50, 31 August 2025 (UTC)

• Related: Wikipedia:Requests for page protection/Increase#Draft:CaseOh (note: the request will be archived quite soon after evaluation). JFHJr (㊟) 18:59, 31 August 2025 (UTC)

  Can't argue with that. And new arrivals will be free to mention brilliant new sources on the talkpage. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:07, 31 August 2025 (UTC)

  This here is indeed the forum. Funnel belongs here. JFHJr (㊟) 19:11, 31 August 2025 (UTC)

  There we go. JFHJr (㊟) 00:34, 1 September 2025 (UTC)

Sources

Has anyone been able to find any actual independent, reliable sources with significant coverage about CaseOh? I want to be able to find enough of these so that this article can get a green light one day. Please let me know what you all find.

Jibblesnark86 (talk) 19:37, 25 September 2025 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Source assessment/CaseOh is what people has come up with so far. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 21:40, 25 September 2025 (UTC)

I've already reviewed over it. But I'm asking if there are any other sources that any people have found that might be suitable. So far, I, myself, have found nothing. I'll keep looking though.

Jibblesnark86 (talk) 21:53, 25 September 2025 (UTC)

@Jibblesnark86, @Gråbergs Gråa Sång the source assessment table is in the midst of updating and could use your help in assessing certain qualities of newly added sources. I've already contributed to previous assessments here and do not want to squat on it, so I'd rather seek your valuable and well considered input as to the new sources. Cheers! JFHJr (㊟) 19:14, 21 December 2025 (UTC)

Well I got to it. Feel free to review and revise! The source assessment is transcluded below, and old disused sources are further in the link. JFHJr (㊟) 05:01, 23 December 2025 (UTC)

Source assessment transclusion

Source assessment table

Source	Independent?	Reliable?	Significant coverage?	Count source toward GNG?
DeSena, Gabby (8 December 2024). "Recap: All 2024 Streamer Awards Winners". Esports Illustrated. Archived from the original on 26 January 2025. Retrieved 13 December 2024.			One short paragraph	✘ No
Ocho, Alex (February 13, 2025). "CaseOh Disses Kendrick Lamar's Super Bowl Show". Complex. Retrieved October 26, 2025.		WP:RSMUSIC	biographically insignificant info for an encyclopedia	✘ No
Jynxzi (February 18, 2024). "Caseoh". Jynxzi Podcast (Podcast). No. 1. Retrieved October 26, 2025.	WP:BLPSPS interview	WP:SPS		✘ No
Winslow, Levi (September 25, 2024). "TwitchCon Attendees Have Declared Who The Biggest Streamer Is Right Now". Complex. Retrieved October 26, 2025.		WP:RSMUSIC		✘ No
Lee, Alexander (January 17, 2025). "Twitch streamers lament likely loss of TikTok as an audience referral engine". Digiday. Retrieved October 26, 2025.			passing mention	✘ No
{Murray, Trent (August 29, 2024). "Who Has the Most Subscribers on Twitch?". Sports Illustrated. Retrieved October 26, 2025.				✘ No
Carr, Joey (August 7, 2024). "How To Get the CaseOh Kitty in Roblox Dress To Impress". The Escapist. Retrieved October 26, 2025.		WP:VGRS, not written between October 2017 – July 2018	see above source	✘ No
Vincent, Hadley (September 14, 2024). "Fears to Fathom – Woodbury Getaway voice actors: Full cast list". Dot Esports. Retrieved October 26, 2025.			One short paragraph	✘ No
Koepp, Brent (April 16, 2025). "'Schedule 1' Adds CaseOh and Moistcr1tikal to the Game - How Twitch Popularized the Drug Dealer Sim". Vice. Retrieved October 26, 2025.		~ WP:VICE	No content of substance about CaseOh	✘ No
Gutelle, Sam (April 25, 2025). "Have you heard? MrBeast's baseball stats, CaseOh's cat computer, and Trisha Paytas' pope drama". Tubefilter. Retrieved October 26, 2025.			passing mention	✘ No
Boggess, Taylor (October 22, 2025). "Popette: CaseOh is my gamer of the year". The Spectator. Retrieved October 26, 2025.		~ WP:RSSM		~ Maybe
L0ka (January 8, 2025). "Un streamer joue à un jeu vidéo d'horreur en live et découvre qu'il apparaît lui-même dedans !". Jeuxvideo.com (in French). Retrieved October 28, 2025.{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: numeric names: authors list (link)			passing mention: npc & award	✘ No
Gutelle, Sam (February 20, 2024). "645,000 peak viewers tune in as Kai Cenat wins big at 2024 Streamer Awards". Tubefilter. Retrieved October 26, 2025.			passing mention	✘ No
Richman, Olivia (February 19, 2024). "The Streamer Awards 2024 All Results Revealed". Sports Illustrated. Archived from the original on 2024-06-12. Retrieved October 26, 2025.			passing mention; short paragraph	✘ No
Connellan, Shannon (December 8, 2025). "The Streamer Awards 2025 winners list: IShowSpeed wins Streamer of the Year". Mashable. Retrieved December 21, 2025.			passing mention	✘ No
Perkins Mastromarino, James (December 13, 2024). "The 2024 Game Awards recap: All winners and most surprising reveals". NPR. Retrieved October 26, 2025.			passing mention	✘ No
Yoon, Jungwon. "supp1-3148789.mp4". doi.org. doi:10.1109/lra.2022.3148789/mm1.				? Unknown
Grayson, Nathan (February 18, 2025). Stream Big: The Triumphs and Turmoils of Twitch and the Stars Behind the Screen. Atria Books. ISBN 9781982156787.		reporter at Aftermath, considered reliable per WP:VG/RS	passing mention	✘ No
Newcombe, Rosalie (October 3, 2025). "These new KontrolFreek x CaseOh Kitty thumbsticks are so cute, even my own cat can't help but stan". GamesRadar+. Retrieved October 26, 2025.		WP:VG/RS	passing mentions in product review	✘ No
Ayub, Simon (January 20, 2026). "Where is CaseOh from? All about the streamer's home-town and origins". Tuko. Retrieved 19 March 2026.		RS/N discussion		✘ No
"Twitch star Caseoh reveals how his parents helped him quit his day job". The Express Tribune. October 29, 2025. Retrieved 19 March 2026.		WP:NPPSG No consensus	~ Some information on his prior employment	? Unknown
Teigen, Ian (April 26, 2024). "CaseOh's impact on body positivity" (PDF). The Paw Print. Vol. 32, no. 7. Polytechnic School (California). p. 8. Retrieved 20 March 2026.		~ No formal consensus. Discussions (like this) have mixed responses	Opinion piece on their impact of body positivity	~ Maybe
Moses, Lucia (4 May 2026). "I quit my job to manage my son's YouTube career. The hardest part: Not being just 'mom.'". Business Insider. Retrieved 6 May 2026.	WP:PRIMARY	~ WP:BI	Main focus.	✘ No
Connellan, Shannon (2 June 2026). "CaseOh has a lot to shout about in 2026". Mashable. Retrieved 3 June 2026.		~ WP:MASHABLE	~ Main focus, but is short at 146 words.	~ Maybe
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}.

The above is a transclusion of WP:Source assessment/CaseOh for easier access and consideration by editors. Cheers! JFHJr (㊟) 21:11, 26 October 2025 (UTC)

@Realcosmixyt, since you submitted this for AfC review, would you mind updating the source evaluation or commenting on the current state of sources? Do they meet WP:GNG (and how)? Due to various protections, this will practically take a reviewer with admin permissions to approve without clearly explained/tabled explanations that a non-admin who agrees with you and can show an admin why... it's your WP:BURDEN. JFHJr (㊟) 02:35, 2 July 2026 (UTC)

Edit request 12 March 2026

Description of suggested change: I Need To Remove Unneeded Citations On Draft:Caseoh

~2026-15913-55 (talk) 21:51, 12 March 2026 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want made. Please detail the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. 🍅 fx (talk) 23:04, 12 March 2026 (UTC)

Draft improvements

This has been rejected by WP:AfC. No edits since December. There are some more sources available now. I plan to work on the draft a bit, I will work on improving references and content, as if it were a WP:BLP. Any help is welcome and references shared here or added to WP:Source assessment/CaseOh are also invited! 11WB (talk) 19:56, 19 March 2026 (UTC)

BLP applies to drafts as well, there is no "as if". Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 20:58, 19 March 2026 (UTC)

A BLP in mainspace I meant. But yes, I follow it regardless of which space it is in. 11WB (talk) 21:18, 19 March 2026 (UTC)

I see nothing that hints Tuko to be a BLP-good source, I don't think that one should be used. Earlier discussion at Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_475#Tuko.co.ke. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:04, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

I agree. It's a legitimate Kenyan news outlet, but a poor quality source for this. I've removed it. Thank you for linking that RS/N discussion. 11WB (talk) 11:24, 20 March 2026 (UTC)

Edit request 30 June 2026

Description of suggested change:

Diff: Warning Unnamed parameter |1= set to default value. Please change it. Failure to use {{Text diff}} to specify your requested text changes, if not adequately described above, may lead to your request being denied.
RomeofromPjmask (talk) 17:43, 30 June 2026 (UTC)

@RomeofromPjmask Do you want to add anything to the request? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:57, 30 June 2026 (UTC)

Yes RomeofromPjmask (talk) 17:57, 30 June 2026 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want made. Please detail the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. FlammablePizza (talk) 19:55, 30 June 2026 (UTC)