Draft talk:Albert Santalo

Albert Santalo Article

Albert Santalo is a Miami-based computer scientist and entrepreneur. He has a great many notable accomplishments and a well-sourced record of innovation within his field. The most substantial would probably be CareCloud, a cloud-based healthcare system which was founded during the banking crisis in 2009, but his other ventures, Avisena and 8base, are also quite notable. His newest venture is Archie AI, a platform designed for software architecture. There is much more to record about Santalo and I welcome help from editors to expand on this article. ThomasToo (talk) 21:54, 27 January 2026 (UTC)

Notability is thin here. There are few new references since his 2020 AfD, and I couldn't find any real WP:SIGCOV pieces on him as a notable figure in a quality national source? Seems more like a local Miami person. thanks. Aszx5000 (talk) 19:07, 29 January 2026 (UTC)

Response to notability concerns

Thank you for reviewing the article, @Aszx5000. I do disagree with you and I'd like to address the notability concerns raised.

National sources with significant coverage:

Forbes (April 2020) — "10 Venture Lessons From Albert Santalo: A New Type Of Unicorn Entrepreneur With An Old Financing Model" — an in-depth profile about his entrepreneurial approach, not merely a mention.

PBS NewsHour (April 5, 2012) — live national televised interview debating the JOBS Act alongside a Columbia Law professor.

TechCrunch (2010, 2013, 2016) — multiple articles covering CareCloud funding rounds.

Inc. 500 (2014) — CareCloud (Santalo was founder and CEO) ranked #127 fastest-growing U.S. company.

Founder of a Wikipedia-notable company:

Santalo founded CareCloud, which has its own Wikipedia article. The company raised $153.4 million from investors including Intel Capital and Norwest Venture Partners, and was acquired in 2020. A founder who built a company significant enough to have its own Wikipedia article typically inherits notability from that achievement.

Regional notability is valid notability:

WP:GNG does not require national coverage — significant coverage in reliable sources suffices. Santalo has been profiled as a foundational figure in Miami's tech ecosystem, described by South Florida Business & Wealth as "one of the top serial entrepreneurs in South Florida" and by eMerge Americas as a "#MiamiTech OG."

Serial founder status:

Santalo has founded five companies over 25 years: Avisena (2001), CareCloud (2009), 8base (2017, Startup Grind "Startup of the Year" 2019), Archie Labs (2024), and Archie.com (2025). This pattern strengthens notability beyond any single venture.

Regarding age of sources:

Per WP:NOTTEMPORARY, notability does not expire. Coverage from 2012 or 2020 remains valid. That said, recent coverage includes a 2024 South Florida Business & Wealth interview, 2025 eMerge Americas speaking engagement, and ongoing contributions to Entrepreneur magazine.

Conclusion:

The combination of national coverage (Forbes, PBS NewsHour), founding a Wikipedia-notable company (CareCloud), valid regional notability, and serial founder status establishes notability under WP:GNG and WP:NBIO. Happy to discuss further. ThomasToo (talk) 19:49, 29 January 2026 (UTC) ThomasToo (talk) 19:49, 29 January 2026 (UTC)

Media press releases from fund rounds do not contribute to notability (see WP:NCORP) and are just WP:MILL. Articles written in Forbes by a contributor - and not a staff writer - are also dismissed per WP:FORBESCON and do not contribute to notability. Again, there is no substantial piece on this person as a notable figure in any quality business source that I could find. Aszx5000 (talk) 20:18, 29 January 2026 (UTC)

Thank you for the clarification. You're correct that the Forbes piece is by a contributor rather than staff. However, WP:FORBESCON advises caution with Forbes contributor content but does not eliminate its weight entirely, particularly when the contributor has subject-matter expertise. Dileep Rao covers entrepreneurship and venture financing and has written for Forbes since 2011. The piece is also an in-depth profile rather than a promotional puff piece.

That said, I'd note the following sources that do have clear editorial oversight:

PBS NewsHour (April 5, 2012) — A live national broadcast interview where Santalo debated the JOBS Act alongside a Columbia Law professor. This is not a press release or promotional content; it's editorial selection by a major news program.

The Boston Globe (June 18, 2013) — Staff-written coverage of CareCloud.

Inc. 500 (2014) — Editorial ranking placing CareCloud at #127 fastest-growing U.S. company while Santalo was CEO.

Additionally, Santalo is the founder of CareCloud, which has its own Wikipedia article, suggesting the company independently meets WP:NORG. The founder of a Wikipedia-notable company typically has a reasonable claim to individual notability.

I acknowledge there are a number of regional sources, but regional notability is valid under WP:GNG. The combination of PBS NewsHour national broadcast coverage, founding a Wikipedia-notable company, and extensive regional coverage should meet the threshold.

I'm open to further discussion. ThomasToo (talk) 20:29, 29 January 2026 (UTC) ThomasToo (talk) 20:29, 29 January 2026 (UTC)

Additionally, Santalo appeared on CNBC in October 2013 for the segment "Getting Obamacare into the Cloud," and in the interview gave expert commentary on healthcare technology. This is an editorial selection by a major national news network, not promotional coverage. I added this to the CareCloud section. I found a Fox News interview as well, but cannot source it correctly yet. ThomasToo (talk) 12:09, 30 January 2026 (UTC)

I also added details about PBS selecting Santalo to debate a nationally recognized securities law expert Professor John C. Coffee Jr. of Columbia Law School on equal footing , not just as a brief soundbite or local business owner perspective. That's a meaningful editorial decision that speaks to notability. I already had the source, but I added the details about the debate ThomasToo (talk) 12:21, 30 January 2026 (UTC)

I have added a second Boston Globe article from March 2013 (Robert Weisman) which included independent analyst commentary about CareCloud and Santalo specifically. That is substantive third-party analysis, not routine milestone coverage. The June 2013 article, while covering funding, was staff-written by Chris Reidy with a large lead photograph of Santalo taken by staff photographer Pat Greenhouse. Newspapers don't assign staff photographers for reprinted press releases. These are two separate Boston Globe staff-written articles within three months, and should not be dismissed as WP:NCORP or WP:MILL. This is in addition to the CNBC interview and Fox Business interview plus the details of his national TV debate on PBS, which were added as well. I don't have access to the 2020 article that was rejected, but I expect the current article now includes substantially improved sourcing ThomasToo (talk) 15:13, 1 February 2026 (UTC)

Additional sourcing update : Replaced the Nancy Dahlberg blog post citation with a staff-written Miami Herald news article by Rob Wile (March 2018), who independently characterized Santalo's companies as "two of the most successful tech companies South Florida has ever produced." Wile, who later joined NBC News, is the second Herald staff reporter to profile the subject; a third, Maya Lora, wrote a separate Business Monday feature in August 2019 which I am not using as it duplicates what I have. Three independent Herald journalists covering the same subject across multiple years reflects sustained editorial interest, not a single-reporter relationship. The Wile article also documents 8base's international operations and Santalo's description of building companies with "one foot in Silicon Valley." ThomasToo (talk) 12:37, 2 February 2026 (UTC)

I have continued to improve sourcing since my last post. The lead paragraph now reflects Santalo's attendance at the White House JOBS Act signing and his nationally televised debate on PBS NewsHour, and the Forbes attribution has been clarified to identify Dileep Rao as a contributor. Since the notability concerns were raised, I have added or clarified the following sources: the significance of the PBS NewsHour debate with Columbia Law professor John C. Coffee Jr.; a second Boston Globe staff-written feature (March 2013) with independent analyst commentary; CNBC and Fox Business television appearances; a Miami Herald staff profile by Rob Wile (March 2018); a Miami Herald Business Monday feature by Maya Lora (August 2019); and additional relevant sourcing including Becker's Hospital Review, ITPro Today, and Austin Business Journal. I also clarified that the original Boston Globe article (June 2013), previously characterized as a funding press release, was a staff-written feature with a large staff photograph of Santalo. I am removing the notability banner in good faith, believing these concerns have been addressed. I am grateful for the scrutiny, as it has resulted in a more strongly sourced article. ThomasToo (talk) 16:08, 5 February 2026 (UTC)

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Resubmission

I have removed promotion and puffery including the WP:FORBESCON article and added sources found via WPRefs: a Wall Street Journal staff-written feature (one of two available), iMedicalApps (a physician-edited medical technology publication), a White House blog post Santalo was invited to contribute following the JOBS Act signing, and a Refresh Miami profile on his current company. The subject's notability centers primarily on his role as founder and CEO of CareCloud, with supporting regional recognition for his subsequent ventures. JondeJon1 (talk) 12:55, 17 May 2026 (UTC)