Draft talk:ASEAN-Japan Centre
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Citations
[edit source]Prompted by the flags from @Stuartyeates and @Byrnachi I've removed a large slab of citations that were pointing back to the Centre, and found many academic sources instead. Hope that has helped. MatthewDalhousie (talk) 15:13, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- It's helped massively, thank you! Byrnachi (talk) 16:09, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
Notable sources & live guide on each parts
[edit source]@Lovelyfurball: Hi thanks for the feedback. We've been trying to get the draft accepted since 2024, and i am wondering for which parts are insufficient (specifically if you could point them out). Also, i'd like to highlight the three sources that I believe best demonstrate notability.
Shiraishi & Kojima (2014), ASEAN-Japan Relations, ISEAS --> peer-reviewed articles compiled in a book. It covers several activities of the organization related to its mandates.
Lim & Nguyen (2024), East Asia Forum. --> ANU's policy journal is well-regarded and independent
Mizuno (2017), The Japan Times — "AJC: Sole agent in Japan to boost Visit ASEAN@50" --> Mizuno is a named journalist
(+ Honorable mention: The Japan Times (30 March 2015). "Japan's investment helps regional development" (PDF). The Japan Times: ASEAN-Japan Centre. p. 2. ) --> covers the Centre for the whole article.
I'd also like to know if i should remove some citations that are still considered primary, which is relevant to the organization's mandates and activities (not basic information).
If you could point them out that'll be very helpful.
Fathyazel (talk) 02:18, 7 April 2026 (UTC)
- @Fathyazel: I have replied at User talk:~2026-21096-17. Lovelyfurball (talk) 02:33, 7 April 2026 (UTC)
- The second Japan Times article ("Japan's investment helps regional development") appears to be a paid promotion of AJC and is hosted in the /ads section of the website Lovelyfurball (talk) 03:03, 7 April 2026 (UTC)
- Thank you for your reply & suggestion. I'm not an official employee at the AJC, but I believe that the Centre deserves a Wikipedia page the same way as EU-Japan Centre. I'm wondering if we could keep this as about AJC, while I can also search for other sources that directly talks about the Centre, not just having one to two paragraphs about AJC. How does this sound? Fathyazel (talk) 03:11, 7 April 2026 (UTC)
- Looking at the article for the EU-Japan Centre for Industrial Cooperation, I'm not sure it meets our notability guidelines as it does not seem to have any secondary sources. If you can point to a couple more reliable, independent sources which cover the AJC itself in depth like the first Japan Times article, then the AJC will be shown to meet WP:NORG. The most important thing is that they cover AJC specifically, not ASEAN-Japan relations more generally. Lovelyfurball (talk) 03:17, 7 April 2026 (UTC)
- Also, are you connected to User:Byrnachi or User:~2026-21096-17? Lovelyfurball (talk) 03:18, 7 April 2026 (UTC)
- Hello! thank you for your reply. I am connected to ~2026-21096-17 which was the same account used for this, but did not realize that I was logged into a temporary account. For Byrnachi, is a colleague but as for myself I am not an official full-time employee at AJC rather an ad hoc intern.
- Also, i did not use generative AI to write the article. It was all through my magic fingers of typing onto the keyboard. Fathyazel (talk) 07:17, 7 April 2026 (UTC)
- Hello @Lovelyfurball, thank you so much for the clarifications!
- It's been awhile since I tried getting the page in line with the standards put forth by Wikipedia, so I thought I'd get some help in the process by asking @Fathyazel!
- I have declared my affiliations and will fully abide by any other requirements needed.
- I understand that there is a conflict of interest and do not expect any leniency, so any non-affiliated help in making the article Wikipedia compliant is greatly appreciated! Byrnachi (talk) 07:39, 7 April 2026 (UTC)
- Looking at the article for the EU-Japan Centre for Industrial Cooperation, I'm not sure it meets our notability guidelines as it does not seem to have any secondary sources. If you can point to a couple more reliable, independent sources which cover the AJC itself in depth like the first Japan Times article, then the AJC will be shown to meet WP:NORG. The most important thing is that they cover AJC specifically, not ASEAN-Japan relations more generally. Lovelyfurball (talk) 03:17, 7 April 2026 (UTC)
- Thank you for your reply & suggestion. I'm not an official employee at the AJC, but I believe that the Centre deserves a Wikipedia page the same way as EU-Japan Centre. I'm wondering if we could keep this as about AJC, while I can also search for other sources that directly talks about the Centre, not just having one to two paragraphs about AJC. How does this sound? Fathyazel (talk) 03:11, 7 April 2026 (UTC)
Link to relevant discussion about notability and evaluating top sources
[edit source]Afc reviewers may save some time evaluating notability of the topic by having a look at User talk:~2026-21096-17#Help me!. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 23:50, 8 April 2026 (UTC)
Sources based on WP:GNG & WP:Notability
[edit source]- Allow me to refer to the conversation at User talk:~2026-21096-17#Help me! to abide by the WP:GNG & Notability guidelines. Please let us know for any further requirements to accept this draft. @ all reviewers.
- 1. International Development Journal Co., Ltd (“International Collaboration Career Guide” Publication) (2024;2019)
- “Japan-ASEAN Centre | Organizations involved in international cooperation (22-23)” Web page https://idj.co.jp/career/archives/11272
- Long-form institutional profile on the Centre directly referring to the interview with Secretary General Kunihiko Hirabayashi. Approximately 2000+ English words (3000+ Japanese characters) in length, with 100% of paragraphs directly addressing its mission, activities, programs, future plans, and institutional data. A dedicated article to AJC, with AJC as the sole subject of the article.
- “<International Organization ASEAN-Japan Centre>”
- Web page https://idj.co.jp/career/archives/2895
- This is a dedicated and multi-page interview with the Secretary General Masataka Fujita published in 2017, where 100% of its content comprises the institutional profile of AJC. With about 2,800-3,100 Japanese characters (1,600 - 1,800 English-equivalent words). The interview questions, answers, photos, data block, and descriptions of programs/activities puts the Centre as the sole, central subject (not a contextual or passing mention).
- About the source: International Development Journal Co., Ltd. is a publishing company that has been reporting issues in developing countries and trends in international cooperation.
- 2. Mizuno, Hiroyasu, ed. (19 January 2017). "AJC: Sole agent in Japan to boost Visit ASEAN@50". The Japan Times. Retrieved 29 May 2024.
- Long-form news feature/interview of ~1550 English words, provides non-trivial coverage of the AJC situating the Centre within the wider ASEAN-Japan relation. Approx. 45% of the article mentions AJC by name, Masataka Fujita quoted explicitly within his capacity as the Secretary General, AJC’s mandate and current activities mentioned in dedicated paragraphs, while AJC-run events and workshops (e.g Tourism EXPO Japan, VA@50 promotion) are described in detail. Other 55%, discusses ASEAN-Japan relations within AJC’s leadership commentary, historical and economic context that is relevant to AJC’s roles and in which it operates.
- About the Source: The Japan Times is a well-established, independent, English-language newspaper. For the author, Hiroyasu Mizuno, was the executive editor of the newspaper by the time the article was published.
- 3. "The ASEAN-Japan Centre can be a Model for Washington's New 'ASEAN Center' < Sasakawa USA". Sasakawa USA.
- A 2,200 word policy analysis published by Sasakawa USA with about 1/4 to 1/3 of the article devoting to the detailed examination of the ASEAN-Japan Centre. It includes its founding, mandate, funding structure, staffing, programmes, and roles/effectiveness as an intergovernmental organization. Analyzed as a comparative institutional model to the proposal of US-ASEAN Center than mentioned incidentally. It is in-depth, treated as a central case study within this independent policy analysis than just a passing reference.
- About the source: Sasakawa USA is a policy research institution and think tank focused on international affairs and its commentary qualifies as a reliable, independent secondary source without any affiliation with AJC, the government, and major stakeholders.
- + (Additional mention) : 小林, 天心 (2010). "ラオスにおける観光開発とエコツーリズム--日本アセアンセンター・ラオス観光開発支援プロジェクトから". Journal of the Institute for Asian Studies / 亜細亜大学アジア研究所 編. 37: 147–186.
- 40-page academic field report (pp.147-186) authored being apart of the AJC tourism development support project, devoting its introductory section (pp. 147-148) entirely to AJC's role, project mandate, and the author's advisory position. AJC is named in the title as the institutional basis for the entire analysis. Pp. 169 - 175 provides evaluation for the Centre's project under the focus of critiques on sustainability. Pp. 176 - 184 brings product and policy proposals that aligns with the Centre's mission with the project.
- About the source: In-depth analysis through the perspective of an advisor carrying out AJC's tourism development project in Laos, it mentions the Centre's objectives, methods, and policy impact which becomes relevant to the author's examination on Laos' tourism. Though the topic of this source is not directed to the Centre, it uses the Centre's as part of the analysis
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