Template talk:AfC submission

Edit request 14 March 2026

Description of suggested change: Under the corp/org decline, add a wikilink to "Listicle". It's a pretty obscure neologism (webster says the earliest mention was in '07)

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provide significant coverage: discuss the subject in detail, excluding routine coverage like product launches, staff appointments, or financial reports and listings in databases or listicles;

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provide significant coverage: discuss the subject in detail, excluding routine coverage like product launches, staff appointments, or financial reports and listings in databases or [[listicle]]s;

EatingCarBatteries _{(contribs | talk)} 05:27, 14 March 2026 (UTC)

 Done –Novem Linguae (talk) 17:23, 14 March 2026 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 14 March 2026

Missing period on lang decline.

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* If you prefer to write in your own language, look for the Wikipedia project in your language

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* If you prefer to write in your own language, look for the Wikipedia project in your language.

HyperAnd (talk) 22:56, 14 March 2026 (UTC)

 Done Primefac (talk) 00:16, 15 March 2026 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 26 March 2026

In the ai/llm comment:

• What I think should be changed:

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  You should not use LLMs to write articles from scratch.

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  You should not use LLMs to generate article content.

  * Why it should be changed: WP:NEWLLM has been broadened to forbid all AI-generated content from articles, not just generation from scratch. The notice needs to be updated accordingly.

Athanelar (talk) 15:45, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

 Done * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 16:09, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

Edit request 3 April 2026

Description of suggested change:

• Merge Template:AfC submission/reject reasons/sandbox → Template:AfC submission/reject reasons

Adds two new reject reasons (hoax pages and blp attack pages), per this discussion at AfC talk page.

nil ^nz 02:06, 3 April 2026 (UTC)

Are we also removing these as decline reasons? Might be a good idea to reduce duplication. –Novem Linguae (talk) 20:26, 3 April 2026 (UTC)

I think keeping BLP as a decline is a good idea, as it covers submissions that don't quite border on attack pages, but shouldn't be accepted.

I know @ChrysGalley raised a point for keeping hoax/joke as a less-bitey decline for not obvious-vandals (like kids making drafts about their cat) but I'm sure there are other options (notability/test/custom decline messages) to cover those? nil ^nz 02:53, 4 April 2026 (UTC)

 Done The question of whether to remove the decline reasons has not been resolved so I am not going to process that part just yet. Primefac (talk) 11:33, 4 April 2026 (UTC)

Did you intend to delete |#default = {{{1}}}? I haven't tested it, but this looks important and like it was perhaps deleted unintentionally. –Novem Linguae (talk) 13:27, 4 April 2026 (UTC)

Looks like I removed it in the sandbox last month without realising – wasn't intentional and should probably be re-added, oops. nil ^nz 14:09, 4 April 2026 (UTC)

 Done. I re-added it :) –Novem Linguae (talk) 14:44, 4 April 2026 (UTC)

Whoops, thanks for noticing and fixing. Primefac (talk) 21:17, 4 April 2026 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 11 April 2026

Probably just a minor tone thing, but the wording of the llm decline should be changed to reflect the newer guidelines.

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llm = This draft appears to be generated by a [[large language model]] (such as ChatGPT). You [[Wikipedia:NEWLLM|should not use LLMs]] to generate article content.

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llm = This draft appears to be generated by a [[large language model]] (such as ChatGPT). You [[Wikipedia:NEWLLM|cannot use LLMs]] to generate article content.

mwwv ^converse∫_edits 16:33, 11 April 2026 (UTC)

 Done –Novem Linguae (talk) 21:08, 11 April 2026 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 17 April 2026

@ClaudineChionh has pointed out that there's a duplicate line in the language decline; could the text be changed as below?

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|lang = {{safesubst:<noinclude />#if: {{{2|}}}|This draft is written in {{{2}}}.|}} This is the English Wikipedia and we can only accept articles written in the [[English language]]. * Please provide a high-quality English translation, avoiding [[Wikipedia:Translation|machine translation tools]] (like Google Translate). * If you prefer to write in your own language, look for the Wikipedia project in your language.{{safesubst:<noinclude />#if: {{safesubst:<noinclude />Mw lang|fn=is_name|{{{2|}}}}}|If you prefer to write in your own language, you may write it in the [[:{{safesubst:<noinclude />mw lang|fn=code_from_name|{{{2}}}}}:|{{{2}}} Wikipedia]].|If you prefer to write in your own language, look for the Wikipedia project in your language on the [https://www.wikipedia.org/ Wikipedia home page].|}}<includeonly>{{safesubst:<noinclude />#ifeq:{{{cat|}}}|no||{{safesubst:<noinclude />#switch:{{NAMESPACENUMBER}}|2|118=[[Category:AfC submissions declined as not in English]]}}}}</includeonly>

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|lang = {{safesubst:<noinclude />#if: {{{2|}}}|This draft is written in {{{2}}}.|}} This is the English Wikipedia and we can only accept articles written in the [[English language]]. * Please provide a high-quality English translation, avoiding [[Wikipedia:Translation|machine translation tools]] (like Google Translate). * {{safesubst:<noinclude />#if: {{safesubst:<noinclude />Mw lang|fn=is_name|{{{2|}}}}}|If you prefer to write in your own language, you may write it in the [[:{{safesubst:<noinclude />mw lang|fn=code_from_name|{{{2}}}}}:|{{{2}}} Wikipedia]].|If you prefer to write in your own language, look for the Wikipedia project in your language on the [https://www.wikipedia.org/ Wikipedia home page].|}}<includeonly>{{safesubst:<noinclude />#ifeq:{{{cat|}}}|no||{{safesubst:<noinclude />#switch:{{NAMESPACENUMBER}}|2|118=[[Category:AfC submissions declined as not in English]]}}}}</includeonly>

nil ^nz 03:04, 17 April 2026 (UTC)

 Done. Primefac (talk) 18:58, 17 April 2026 (UTC)

Edit request 21 April 2026

Description of suggested change: Currently, the LLM decline message can be read such that G15 covers hallucinations, copyright issues, and tone, but in reality it only covers bad references and communication intended for the user.

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LLM-generated pages [[Wikipedia:G15|with the below issues may be deleted without notice]].

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LLM-generated pages with [[Wikipedia:G15|certain obvious signs of being machine generated]] may be deleted without notice.

EatingCarBatteries _{(contribs | talk)} 03:15, 21 April 2026 (UTC)

 Done Primefac (talk) 11:07, 21 April 2026 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 27 April 2026

For drafts declined under c-vc, can the link parameter not stick to the comma and word next to it? Seen in Draft:Caroline Clauss-Ehlers

{{AFC submission|d|cv-c|https://liu.edu/brooklyn/academics/Faculty/Faculty/C/caroline-clauss-ehlers|u=EastRiverEditor|ns=118|decliner=ThatTrainGuy1945|declinets=20260328204219|ts=20260219175120}}

outputs text:

This draft appears to contain copyrighted material from https://liu.edu/brooklyn/academics/Faculty/Faculty/C/caroline-clauss-ehlers,which has been removed. nhals8 (rats in the house of the dead) 01:18, 27 April 2026 (UTC)

It would appear that this is fixable by replacing , }} with ,}}  on line 156 of {{AfC submission/comments}}. — chrs [talk] 02:58, 27 April 2026 (UTC)

Thank you, editor CHRS for your help focusing this investigation! P.I. Ellsworth , ed. – welcome! – 04:50, 27 April 2026 (UTC)

 Completed. Sandboxed and case tested – also verified at Draft:Caroline Clauss-Ehlers. Good catch, editor .nhals8! P.I. Ellsworth , ed. – welcome! – 04:50, 27 April 2026 (UTC)

Complaint about contents

There was a discussion at WT:N about whether the comments in this template conflict with "policy". The discussion was recently closed, but I leave a note here in case anyone needs to find it later: Wikipedia talk:Notability#c-RememberOrwell-20260309115800-Misleading? WhatamIdoing (talk) 18:55, 29 April 2026 (UTC)

Would have been nice if an AFC-related talk page had been informed a bit earlier so we could participate in the disucssion rather than just seeing the outcome of it. But better late than never. Thanks for the notification. –Novem Linguae (talk) 19:20, 29 April 2026 (UTC)

Edit request 9 May 2026

Description of suggested change: On Template:AfC submission/comments, making it clear that the list for the WP:NOT decline message is not exhaustive. Adding the point on a digital encyclopedia, because for some reason people forget that.

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This draft is not suitable for Wikipedia. Wikipedia is not a general publishing platform. We do not accept: * ''essays or original research'': personal views, advocacy, unpublished theories, or pre-prints; * ''resumes or personal profiles'': CVs, social networking pages, or memorials; * ''directories or manuals'': travel guides, catalogs, or how-to instructions; * ''creative writing'': fanfiction, worldbuilding, myths, or things you have made up. Read [[Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not|What Wikipedia is not]] to understand what content is excluded.

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This draft is not suitable for Wikipedia. Wikipedia is a digital [[encyclopedia]], not a general publishing platform. We do not accept: * ''essays or original research'': personal views, advocacy, unpublished theories, or pre-prints; * ''resumes or personal profiles'': CVs, social networking pages, or memorials; * ''directories or manuals'': travel guides, catalogs, or how-to instructions; * ''creative writing'': fanfiction, worldbuilding, myths, or things you have made up. The above list is not exhaustive. Please read [[Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not|What Wikipedia is not]] to understand what content is excluded.

EatingCarBatteries _{(contribs | talk)} 20:34, 9 May 2026 (UTC)

 Completed. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. – welcome! – 23:04, 9 May 2026 (UTC)

Edit request 30 May 2026

In the "ai" decline reason, the first line should be changed to specify that any AI generated text is the problem, and to avoid implying that the entire draft is AI generated, as this may not always be the case.

My suggestion:

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This draft appears to be generated by a large language model (such as ChatGPT). You cannot use LLMs to generate article content.

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This draft appears to contain text generated by a large language model (such as ChatGPT). You cannot use LLMs to generate article content.

Athanelar (talk) 05:11, 30 May 2026 (UTC)

 Done, reasonable update. Primefac (talk) 11:10, 30 May 2026 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 28 June 2026

Can we please revert the AI/LLM decline template back to before the recent systemwide upgrade/updates (keeping the language changes as appropriate to reflect the strengthening of guidelines)? Specifically the newer version seems more BITEy, and I also object to the removal of the note about AI hallucinations being "plausible sounding but false information"... in most cases AI doesn't just make random shit up out of nowhere or invent things out of thin air... it predicts what the expected solution or response should be, and while it frequently gets it wrong, it's usually at least vaguely close to reality when you look closely. Same thing goes for "non-existent references" – in the vast majority of cases I've experienced AIs don't completely invent actual fake sources... the specific references such as article titles, page numbers, URLs, etc. will often be incorrect but the underlying source does in fact exist in some capacity.

So basically this request is to revert the list of problems with AI writing in the associated template to the version as of Special:Diff/1330992472, but just the list, not any of the other text or wikilinks to anti-AI guidelines etc. Taking Out The Trash (talk) 00:26, 28 June 2026 (UTC)

@Taking Out The Trash the new version was workshopped and supported by editors at AfC – it'd be best to start a conversation and get consensus at WT:AFC before reverting. In solidarity, nil ^nz 04:29, 28 June 2026 (UTC)

Hi @Taking Out The Trash. This was part of my User:Qcne/AfC template rewrites project, with the discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Archive_63#Overhaul_of_the_AfC_templates. qcne (talk) 11:04, 28 June 2026 (UTC)

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before posting an edit request. Primefac (talk) 12:49, 28 June 2026 (UTC)

Parameters

Could someone add explanations for the various template parameters? I'm attempting to add this to a draft that I messed up the initial creation for. The template on my other draft includes the "ts" parameter, which appears to maybe be a unique identifier, as well as the "demo" parameter which is blank. Is there a correct way to add this manually, without having to go through deletion and recreating via the Article Wizard? ChompyTheGogoat (talk) 06:20, 8 July 2026 (UTC)

ts is for timestamp, which self-populates when the template is added. Removing and readding {{AfC submission}} to the top of your draft should fix it. In solidarity, nil ^nz 06:30, 8 July 2026 (UTC)

Oh, I thought that's what the ns parameter was. I left that in and removed ts when I copied it over, and it looks ok to me? Nothing has self-populated in the markup. ChompyTheGogoat (talk) 06:40, 8 July 2026 (UTC)

ChompyTheGogoat, I'll see what makes sense with the doc, but just adding {{subst:submit}} will submit the draft with all parameters in place and {{subst:AfC draft}} will do the same with the "unsubmitted" box. Is that what you're looking for? (please do not ping on reply) Primefac (talk) 21:11, 11 July 2026 (UTC)

Yeah, thanks. I'd copied it over from the other draft that I created correctly, with parameter T for unsubmitted, but wasn't sure about the others that had auto populated on the original - ns=118 and demo (which is empty) as well as the above ts. I think it would still be helpful to fill out the table here so people can understand what function they all serve. ChompyTheGogoat (talk) 00:29, 12 July 2026 (UTC)

It also still has a "last edited" showing with no ts parameter, just like the other draft that does have it. ChompyTheGogoat (talk) 00:37, 12 July 2026 (UTC)

I figured out the ns parameter refers to WP:NAMESPACE. ChompyTheGogoat (talk) 07:33, 15 July 2026 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request 1 August

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This draft appears to contain text generated by a [[large language model]] (such as ChatGPT). You [[Wikipedia:NEWLLM|cannot use LLMs]] to generate article content.LLM-generated pages with [[Wikipedia:G15|certain obvious signs of being machine generated]] may be deleted without notice.These tools are prone to specific issues that violate our policies:* ''[[Hallucination (artificial intelligence)|hallucinations]]'': they often invent false information and cite non-existent references.* ''[[Wikipedia:Neutral point of view|unencyclopedic tone]]'': they tend to be vague, promotional, or essay-like, rather than neutral and factual.* ''[[Wikipedia:Copyright violations|copyright issues]]'': they may closely paraphrase existing text, leading to copyright violations.Instead, only [[Wikipedia:Writing better articles#Information style and tone|summarize in your own words a range of independent, reliable, published sources]] that discuss the subject.See [[Wikipedia:Large language models|the advice page on large language models]] for more information.

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This draft appears to contain text generated by a [[large language model]] (such as ChatGPT). You [[Wikipedia:NEWLLM|cannot use LLMs]] to generate article content.LLM-generated pages with [[Wikipedia:G15|certain obvious signs of being machine generated]] may be deleted without notice.Instead, only [[Wikipedia:Writing better articles#Information style and tone|summarize in your own words a range of independent, reliable, published sources]] that discuss the subject.See [[Wikipedia:Large language models|the advice page on large language models]] for more information.

The section beginning "These tools are prone to specific issues that violate our policies" is misleading, as it implies that LLM-generated text which does not contain these issues may be acceptable. In any case it's unnecessary; we don't need to give people a screed on why LLM generated text is bad, the only part which is relevant to their article being declined is that it's not allowed. The current version leaves too much wiggle-room for wikilawyering, intentional or otherwise, especially by those users who get the chatbot to interpret the decline notice for them.

I raised this suggestion at WT:AFC a few days ago and have had one reply in support and no opposition. Athanelar (talk) 06:01, 1 August 2026 (UTC)

 Completed – see referenced discussion <permalink>. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. – welcome! – 08:54, 1 August 2026 (UTC)

Week-old RfC about alternative decline layouts is still open if you want to participate

 You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Articles for creation § RfC: Condensing or collapsing decline notices (except for the latest one on each draft). – MrPersonHumanGuy (talk) 10:23, 2 August 2026 (UTC)

Just noting that RFCs run for a month... Primefac (talk) 17:33, 2 August 2026 (UTC)