Talk:Muisca Confederations (political units)
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[edit]Hello. First of all sorry for my English. I am currently writing my thesis on this subject, and I have trouble switching to a different style than my usual one, so I can't improve the subject myself out of fear of being wrongly accused of plagiarism (or of simply using Wikipedia instead of doing my own research on current academic consensus). However, I can provide the necessary sources for the improvement of pages relating to the Muisca confederation: All of them are publicly accessible and I hope a devoted editor has the time and energy to read them, and then to change the Wikipedia page(s) on the Muisca for the better. Indeed, there have been many changes in Muisca scholarship recently (this does not mean that the traditional historical narratives are necessarily wrong). Here are the sources, they will contextualise everything and are fairly easy to read: https://www.banrepcultural.org/biblioteca-virtual/credencial-historia/numero-44/los-senores-muiscas (for this link you will have to refuse options for it to work); https://www.academia.edu/22398553/Mercados_poblamiento_Muiscas ; and https://sites.pitt.edu/~ccapubs/pdfdownloads/PITTmem09-Langebaek_1995.pdf (the last one will take some time loading). I know this demand might be bizarre, but it comes from the heart. It hurts seeing niche subjects cite almost only short museum pages/blogs/tourism pages instead of the detailed studies that exist about the muisca just as they do about the Aztec and Inca. I don’t have much time to argue about it a lot, and as I said I am not able to do the changes (big) myself (though believe me, I would love to, and I will probably one day). If a devoted user speaking basic Spanish and English with the time and energy necessary would have the kindness to read the three sources, I will be eternally grateful. There is MUCH more to this than 2 studies and a short article, but this can be a good way to improve Wikipedia by being informed about the muisca. After having finished, I am sure the editor in question will have the exact same eagerness as I have to improve Wikipedia pages related to the muisca. Maybe other editors with knowledge of niche subjects know what I am talking about. Kind regards, 80.187.115.196 (talk) 05:13, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
- PS: I am now and plan to stay: WikipedianN.48 WikipedianN.48 (talk) 19:04, 8 August 2025 (UTC)
- In spite of my inability to contribute more than I (now) already did, I am able to provide an (incomplete) list of recommended reading for anyone (wether a curious reader, a university student/professor, or a member of the muisca cabildo or other community) wishing to participate in enhancing Wikipedia's coverage of pre-Hispanic South-American/Isthmo-Colombian ethno-history. Most texts are fairly easy to read even with just basic levels of Spanish and/or English. If those with the necessary time and energy manage to read a few of these (usually interesting) published & reliable sources, it would probably greatly better the state of Wikipedia (by being informed, more ppl might volunteer, if possible, to contribute to pages relating to the Muisca, a pre-Hispanic people). This list was already provided elsewhere, but a specific work adapted to this page has been added at the beginning.
- -- (in SPANISH; ADAPTED TO THIS ARTICLE'S NEEDS, as the author, Langebaek, provides a complete list of chiefdoms and communities under the rule of each muisca confederation. These lists are (extremely) better than the current (unsourced) list shown as a template in the article: Carl Henrik Langebaek, Mercados, Poblamiento e integracion etnica entre los musical: Siglo XVI, a link has been provided at the top of this talk page as well already.
- —-(in SPANISH) For a brief (and big public) overview of current academic debates/consensus, as well as Carl Henrik Langebaek's principal arguments about Muisca society and economy: Carl Henrik Langebaek, Los Muiscas: Historia Milenaria de un Pueblo Chibcha, Penguin Random House Editions, 2019 (not publicly accessible).
- —-(in SPANISH) For a new description of the Spanish conquest: Eduardo Londoño, La Conquista del cacicazgo de Bogotá, 1988 (accessible if you click on "Download full text pdf")
- —-(in ENGLISH) For new ideas on Muisca socio-politics and thought : Hope Henderson and Nicholas Ostler, Muisca settlement organization and chiefly authority at Suta, Valle de Leyva, Colombia: A critical appraisal of native concepts of house for studies of complex societies, 2005 (accessible)
- —- (in ENGLISH) For a recent, English-language work summarising current consensus: Juan Cobo Betancourt, The Coming of the Kingdom, 2024, [[Cambridge University Press]] (accessible)
- —-For (in SPANISH) ethno-historical research on spatial-temporal conceptions: José Rozo Gauta, Espacio y tiempo entre los Muiscas, 1997 (not publicly accessible)
- —- (in SPANISH) For research on Muisca religion and cosmo-vision related to politics: François Correa, El Sol del Poder, 2004, (accessible)
- —- (in SPANISH) For new ideas about post-conquest chiefs and their domains: Jorge Augusto Gamboa, El Cacicazgo muisca en los años posteriores a la Conquista (accessible)
- —- (in ENGLISH) For new ideas about the Muisca calendar: Manuel Arturo Izquierdo Peña, The Muisca Calendar: An approximation (accessible).
- Dear regards,
- WikipedianN.48 (talk) 18:48, 8 August 2025 (UTC)
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