Talk:Formula One race weekend
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Informal Move Request
[edit]I won't start another formal move request yet but I do feel that "Formula One racing" is not excatly what the article is about. "Formula One Grand Prix" is precisely what the article is discussing and I'm not sure how it could be interpreted otherwise. If that is too ambiguous then "Formula One Race Weekend". Happy to repoen this discussion because "Formula One racing" is in fact very ambiguous; I would reasonably expect the article to be about the new rules around racing. Pksois23 (talk) 20:19, 16 February 2025 (UTC)
- I agree "Formula One race weekend" sounds more appropriate, and that this article does not wholly cover the meaning of "Formula One racing"—which is already broadly addressed at Formula One. Formula One Grand Prix remains a dab link, per the move request above, and Formula One Grands Prix redirects to the list of Grands Prix. WP:PRECISE suggests it should either be "Formula One race weekend" or "Formula One Grand Prix weekend"; whichever best fits WP:COMMONNAME. MB2437 10:20, 17 February 2025 (UTC)
- I agree that the currently title does not accurately represent the content. I also complete reject the unsupported motion that the Wikipedia:PRIMARYTOPIC for "Formula One Grand Prix" would be List of Formula One Grands Prix. I still think that Formula One Grand Prix should be the location for this article. Failing that "Formula One Grand Prix weekend" would work fine, and I would prefer that over "race weekend". SSSB (talk) 11:14, 17 February 2025 (UTC)
- Disagree. Not every formula one race ever held was a Grand Prix.Tvx1 16:16, 17 February 2025 (UTC)
- This article seems to exclusively refer to World Championship Grands Prix; I agree this could be a concern should the article be expanded, whereby "race weekend" would be more appropriate than "Grand Prix weekend". There does seem to be a strong focus on the modern format, however. MB2437 16:21, 17 February 2025 (UTC)
- The way the article is currently written though, it focusses exclusively on the format of Grand Prix, not the more broad every Formula One race. And even if it were, that doesn't change the initial rationale that "Formula One racing" does not accurately represent the actual articles content. SSSB (talk) 17:24, 17 February 2025 (UTC)
Requested move 19 February 2025
[edit]- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
| It was proposed in this section that Formula One racing be renamed and moved to Formula One Grand Prix.
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The chosen title is most popular below by a slender margin, so there may still be room for improvement. Gentle reminder to editors of the following guidance from OTHEROPTIONS: "As this result does not indicate a consensus for the chosen title, anyone who objects to the closer's decision may make another move request at any time, and is advised to create such a request instead of taking the closure to move review." Thanks and kudos to editors for your input; everyone stay healthy! P.I. Ellsworth , ed. put'er there 06:45, 30 May 2025 (UTC) |
Formula One racing → Formula One Grand Prix – “Formula One racing” is too broad and does not accurately reflect the article’s focus on the structure of a Formula One Grand Prix, including practice, qualifying, and the race itself. “Formula One Grand Prix” more precisely describes the subject, aligning WP:COMMONNAME. If ambiguity remains a concern, “Formula One Grand Prix weekend” is a suitable alternative. Pksois23 (talk) 20:08, 19 February 2025 (UTC) — Relisting. TarnishedPathtalk 09:57, 27 February 2025 (UTC) — Relisting. TarnishedPathtalk 00:53, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
- Support. The current title lacks any WP:PRECISION, completely failing to accurately represent what the article is actually about. The 2021 discussion talked alot about the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC of "Formula One Grand Prix" being List of Formula One Grand Prix. I completely reject this argument. If someone was looking for a list of events, they would include "list" in their search and pluralise Grand Prix. I am therefore going to pre-emptively ask for evidence that this is the case. I think that someone searching "Formula One Grand Prix" would want to know what a Formula One Grand Prix is, and this article describes this. SSSB (talk) 09:25, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
- Comment - Neither title seems particularly descriptive of this article's contents to me, as both suggest a greater focus on the race than the entire event, and both seem more like titles appropriate for WP:DAB pages than for this article. "Formula One race weekend" might be a better title, but I am loathe to suggest much more since I feel a greater review of the structure and presentation of all of these supplemental Formula One articles is probably advisable. What separates this article's contents from those at Formula One regulations, for example? I don't have any immediate suggestions in this regard, but I find it quite hard to discern what the exact intent of each article is, and twenty years since they were first created it might be reasonable to have a discussion (probably at WT:F1 rather than on this talk page) about how these should be incorporated into Wikipedia as it exists in 2025. HumanBodyPiloter5 (talk) 18:45, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- Note: WikiProject Motorsport and WikiProject Formula One have been notified of this discussion. TarnishedPathtalk 09:58, 27 February 2025 (UTC)
- Support. First of all, the present title makes no sense as a description of what happens at a single event. "Formula One racing" should clearly redirect to the parent article Formula One, which declares in its opening sentence that it is an article about "racing". Secondly, the RM above seems to have failed on the grounds that Formula One Grand Prix is ambiguous. Yet the only other contenders seem to be just the list article for this topic (which wouldn't normally be the main target (see for example President of the United States vs List of presidents of the United States) and a couple of video games. Overall, the proposed title is vastly better than the current arrangement. The dab page can be moved accordingly. — Amakuru (talk) 10:42, 27 February 2025 (UTC)
- Support. Formula One Grand Prix its a lot more precise to this article. For Formula One racing is too vague and this its covered by Formula One that cover the different aspects concerning F1.Rpo.castro (talk) 12:31, 27 February 2025 (UTC)
- Both "Formula One racing" and "Formula One Grand Prix" are things that arguably should be redirects to the main Formula One article, although as Rally Wonk says below there's also the issue that the "Formula One" article is trying to double as an article about both the category and the World Championship, which is reflective of a general issue with WP:RECENTISM throughout all of these articles. HumanBodyPiloter5 (talk) 19:18, 27 February 2025 (UTC)
- Comment. Fully agree with HumanBodyPiloter5, the entire structure of F1 articles could be considered. I'd like to see an article based on the Formula One World Championship in line with the other FIA championships, with Formula One remaining as the historic and general overview of the formula as it used to be used nationally too. A championship article could have the structure of the events as a section within it. This article has a section on points scoring, even talks of years prior to the F1WC, but there isn't a 'home page' for the championship. It's all over the place.
- I somewhat agree with the proposal, however I don't agree there is common enough demand for how the events are structured without wanting to know the other things about the championship, which is now the only series you find an F1 grand prix. And it is a series not a sport. Rally Wonk (talk) 17:32, 27 February 2025 (UTC)
- Comment The precise title would be either "Formula One race weekend" or "Formula One Grand Prix weekend", as that is what is discussed in the article. The use of "Grand Prix" limits the scope of the article to World Championship Grands Prix, which does not cover the entire basis of Formula One motor racing. As HumanBodyPiloter5 commented above, it is an example of RECENTISM. The suggested "Formula One Grand Prix" is far more suitable than "Formula One racing", but "Formula One race weekend" would be preferable to both in my eyes. MB2437 17:58, 28 February 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose moving to "Formula One Grand Prix" - My previous commentary focused on the broader issues with this article, but having ruminated on this further (and with the discussion having apparently stalled without clear consensus) I think it's best to explain my position on this article's title while it is in the current state that it is in. In my opinion having "Formula One racing" or "Formula One grand prix" be anything other than a redirect to the parent Formula One article is highly-likely to WP:ASTONISH readers. Arguably "Formula One Grand Prix" should redirect to the Geoff Crammond game per WP:DIFFCAPS (note that this game is a highly-influential and significant entry within the racing game genre), but it's probably still better if that redirects to the main Formula One article. This article is a relatively niche supplementary article about the structure of Formula One events, and both "Formula One racing" and "Formula One Grand Prix" are terms that are far too general for me to find it justifiable to have either term lead to such a niche article (per WP:ASTONISH). Personally, I think that from both a WP:PRECISION and WP:CONCISION perspective the option I would most support would be moving to "Formula One weekend", although "Formula One race weekend" and "Formula One grand prix weekend" would both be perfectly acceptable. I think the WP:ASTONISH aspect really needs to be considered here. I struggle to imagine that a majority of the people typing "Formula One Grand Prix" into the search bar would be looking for an article on this subject. I suspect that it would mostly be a combination of people looking for the Formula One article, people looking for the list of Formula One Grands Prix article, and people looking for the Formula One Grand Prix (video game) article. HumanBodyPiloter5 (talk) 11:17, 30 March 2025 (UTC)HumanBodyPiloter5 (talk) 23:35, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose moving to "Formula One Grand Prix" — I support either the "Formula one race weekend" or "Formula One weekend", as more accurate titles. The Seal F1 (talk) 13:29, 4 April 2025 (UTC)
- Comment – "Grand Prix" is used synonymously with the Sunday race itself so I oppose the proposed move. I do however support "Formula One race weekend" as per the suggestion of others. This is how the F1 website refers to the events and would be in line with WP:PRECISE and WP:CONCISE.
Post-Race
[edit]Do the top 3 finishers still do the post-race presser? C4's UK highlights programme only shows them being interviewed (in English) immediately after exiting their cars, usually by a former driver. Mr Larrington (talk) 20:01, 2 July 2026 (UTC)