Talk:D&E Media

WP:Verifiability concerns

I stumbled upon this article and began spot-checking some of its citations. The very first citation violates WP:V and WP:SYNTH, as the cited source makes no mention of D&E Media.

1. Rebecca Saunders (2020). Bodies of Work: The Labour of Sex in the Digital Age. Palgrave Macmillan. pp. 168–169. ISBN 9783030490157.

This citation claims the relevant source material is on pages 168–169. However, page 168 states: The controversial site FacialAbuse, owned by GE Multimedia Ltd. and established in 2003, and makes no reference to D&E Media, LLC, or DE Multimedia Ltd. anywhere in the book.

In fact, the book consistently attributes the mentioned site to an entity called GE Multimedia:

• Page 179: The exploitative labour foregrounded by companies like JM Productions and GE Multimedia Ltd. seeks instead the shock and thrill of the unexpected.

• Page 187: The wild, out-of-control use of living labour depicted in the sites of companies like JM Productions and GE Multimedia is not subversive, then, but rather the consummately hegemonic sign of capitalistic functioning.

• Page 227: ...companies like JM Productions and GE Multimedia Limited, it is clear that the alt porn rhetoric of porn performing as necessarily pleasurable and valuably self-exploratory...

Given these verifiability and misattribution issues, I propose removing this citation in accordance with WP:V (specifically WP:BURDEN), WP:SYNTH, and WP:NOR. I welcome the article creator and other editors to weigh in if they have any objections. Acoustical (talk) 20:21, 4 November 2025 (UTC)

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Upon cross-checking the article further for source-content inaccuracies, I noticed the first (and rather long) sentence in the Content section, which is cited to Mamamia. This source does verify the quoted statement, but it does not explicitly mention several of the acts or adjectives described in that sentence. I therefore propose removing the text marked in red, which could not be verified in the cited source, as it constitutes a WP:SYNTH and WP:V violation:

Many D&E Media series, such as the flagship one, Facial Abuse, are premised around dominant men engaging in erotic humiliation and rough sex with submissive women, who are often subject to being spat on, choking and other forms of erotic asphyxiation, deep-throating and irrumatio-induced vomiting, golden showers and urophagia, impact play like slaps to the body and face, and threats and verbal degradation such as, "Is this how your daddy fucks you? Have you ever felt this degraded? Do you feel like a totally worthless whore now?"

I'll remove the highlighted parts of this sentence if nobody objects to it. Acoustical (talk) 22:49, 11 November 2025 (UTC)

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Reviewing a few more citations at random in the Criticism section, I noticed issues with how two citations are being used:

9. Dines, Gail (2 July 2014). "UCSB, Feminism and Porn". HuffPost. Retrieved 20 September 2025.

There are inconsistencies between what Gail Dines wrote in this opinion piece and what the Wikipedia article attributes to her. I propose removing the portion highlighted in red, where Dines is referring to the industry in general rather than to FacialAbuse's videos in particular:

In a July 2014 article about misogyny in the pornographic film industry written for HuffPost, Gail Dines singled Facial Abuse out, opining that the acts depicted in its videos were comparable to torture, and that the website's own descriptions of the videos characterized women as "disposable 'sluts' who are undeserving of dignity, bodily integrity, or the slightest shred of empathy" while also showing "no pretense that this is about consensual or mutually enjoyable sex."

7. Ewing, Aliya (1 February 2008). "Phonte Coleman and Sinnamon Love: Turntables Pt 2". hiphopdx.com. Internet Archive. Archived from the original on 20 May 2009. Retrieved 27 September 2025.

The first paragraph of the Criticism section gives WP:UNDUE weight to the statements of Sinnamon Love who does not appear to have been directly associated with the website or considered an authority on the broader topic (unlike figures such as Gail Dines or Holly Randall). This interview also does not have an explicit mention of taking advantage of desperate and inexperienced Black women. Besides, the paragraph offers no additional insight beyond what is already covered in the other parts of the article and in the same section. I propose removing the entire paragraph, per WP:UNDUE, WP:ADVOCACY and WP:OPINION. Acoustical (talk) 03:26, 19 November 2025 (UTC)

D&E Media and FacialAbuse were established in 2003. The FacialAbuse trademark is singly linked to D&E Media, and D&E Media's operator Donald Vollenweider has a history of changing the names and locations of his operating LLCs to create confusion. It is very clear Saunders is referring to FacialAbuse and thus D&E Media. Here is evidence that FacialAbuse is a trademark specifically owned by D&E:

https://trademarks.justia.com/886/31/the-letters-f-a-c-i-a-l-a-b-u-s-88631611.html Jokicmvp2021 (talk) 04:11, 31 December 2025 (UTC)

Did you fully read the post you're replying to? The issue pertained to the Wikipedia article containing the name "DE Multimedia Ltd", whereas the cited book referred to a company called "GE Multimedia Ltd". There isn't a single mention of "D&E Media, LLC" or "DE Multimedia Ltd" in the book; therefore, this citation and the name "DE Multimedia Ltd" were correctly removed from the article per WP:V and WP:NOR. Acoustical (talk) 02:25, 1 January 2026 (UTC)

FacialAbuse is one of the main flagship "doorways" of D&E Media. FacialAbuse is being referenced in Saunders' book. It is quite clear what they are referring to because none other than D&E Media operate FacialAbuse. Jokicmvp2021 (talk) 02:10, 3 January 2026 (UTC)

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Firstly, talking about self-published sources and personal blogs, there's a Medium blog being cited in three different places in the article:

17. Mulholland, Paul (5 July 2023). "FacialAbuse Porn Studio Accused of Ignoring Consent and Injuring Models". Medium. Retrieved 20 September 2025.

Medium is a blog hosting service and a self-published, unreliable source which should be avoided unless the author is a subject-matter expert, according to WP:RSP (specifically WP:MEDIUM). The author of this piece is nowhere close to meeting that standard. As a result, this source and any content that relies on it should be immediately removed.

Secondly, I noticed additional WP:SYNTH issues and possible WP:BLP violations in the 'Allegations of misconduct' section, with how this source is being used:

48. McQueen, Madison (26 October 2022). "Shocking Confessions From 5 Ex-Porn Stars". Exodus Cry. Retrieved 20 September 2025.

There are inconsistencies between what this source states and what the Wikipedia page currently asserts. I suggest removing the portions highlighted in red, as they are not supported by the source:

Felicity Feline, who did two Facial Abuse scenes in 2015, stated while she knew beforehand the first Facial Abuse shoot would entail rough sex, she was still taken by surprise by how violent, as well as demeaning, it was, calling it a "bomb of physical abuse" in which the director, Jimmy Hooligan, and male performers, Paul Kryscuk and Michael Sims, tried to "break" her by asking her questions like if she was molested as a child or a victim of incest, Feline explaining that, despite this, she did not call for filming to stop because, "If I stopped, I wouldn't get paid."

The names in particular should be removed immediately per WP:BLP and WP:OR. Acoustical (talk) 18:52, 25 November 2025 (UTC)

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In the 'History' section of the article, this paragraph functions as a WP:COATRACK and is irrelevant to the company's history:

Paul Kryscuk, a Neo-Nazi who regularly performed for D&E Media under the name Pauly Harker, including in series that "degrade Black women" like Ghetto Gaggers, was arrested in October 2020 along with other members of a contingent of the Atomwaffen Division that was running guns to raise funds for plotted terrorist attacks like bombing a Northwestern power grid and shooting members of Black Lives Matter. Vollenweider, when reached for comment in 2023 by Tommie McDonald of the podcast Offbeat, denied knowing Kryscuk was a Neo-Nazi.

Kryscuk apparently last worked for the company in 2017 ( ), at least three years before the arrest. None of the sources indicate that the company had any involvement in the planned attacks. If he previously also worked at McDonald's, would anyone argue that this incident should be added to McDonald's#History? This paragraph belongs on Kryscuk's own article and should be removed from this article per WP:COATRACK, WP:BALASP, and WP:CONTEXTMATTERS. Acoustical (talk) 19:28, 3 December 2025 (UTC)

The company D&E Media specializes in filming racially abusive content. Is it not relevant then that one of their former employees was also convicted for terrorism and espoused racial hate based ideology? Jokicmvp2021 (talk) 04:03, 31 December 2025 (UTC)

You did not address any of the policy-based arguments in my post. What happened to Kryscuk three years after he left the company is completely irrelevant to the company's corporate history, unless the company itself was indicted in the incident (which it wasn't). This paragraph may be appropriate for Kryscuk's personal Wikipedia article, but not for the article about his former employer, which played no role in the attacks. Your argument relies on the classic logical fallacy of retrospectively assigning guilt by association. Acoustical (talk) 02:27, 1 January 2026 (UTC)

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I have found issues with three more citations that need to be addressed:

2. Warren, Peter (12 April 2018). "Joint Statement Disputes Raven Assault Claims, Raven Responds". AVN. Retrieved 20 September 2025.

This source does not independently verify that "Exploit It All Media" is the same company as "D&E Media". It does not mention D&E at all, and the closest it comes is one line stating that certain sites are "believed to be linked to Facial Abuse".

The joint statement from the director, performer, and production assistant rebuts the allegations that Facial Abuse was involved. Raven later amended her allegation and named the Black Payback website instead. The source presents allegations, rebuttals, and counter-allegations from both sides, but provides no direct and independent confirmation from AVN regarding whether Exploit It All Media and D&E Media are the same entity.

Therefore, Exploit It All Media, Inc. should be removed per WP:RSEDITORIAL, unless a stronger source is provided that independently establishes D&E Media = Exploit It All Media.

3. Kat Banyard (2016). Pimp State: Sex, Money and the Future of Equality. Faber & Faber. The pursuit of porn profits determines:– what sex acts women are required to do (or, more accurately, endure). ISBN 9780571278237.

There are inconsistencies between what this source states and what the Wikipedia page currently asserts. I propose removing the portions highlighted in red, as they are not supported by the source:

Vanessa Belmond, who did a scene for Latina Abuse in September 2010 under the name Alexa Cruz, said after the shoot, which was directed by Donald Vollenweider and co-starred David Horter and Paul Kryscuk, she looked like she was "beaten up" with injuries that included "red marks all over my body" and "eyes [that] were so swollen that I looked like I had pink eye." According Belmond, before the shoot, a D&E Media employee told her, "You're lucky you're not working for Ghetto Gaggers, we're meaner to the Black girls."

6. McQueen, Madison (10 July 2023). "Porn Studio, Facial Abuse, Accused of Ignoring Consent and Inflicting Injuries on Models". Exodus Cry. Retrieved 20 September 2025.

This source relies entirely on information taken from a Medium blog by Paul Mulholland. Medium is a self-published, unreliable source and should be avoided unless the author is a recognized subject-matter expert, per WP:RSP (specifically WP:MEDIUM). I found no evidence that Mulholland is anything beyond a blogger, and there is no indication of any credible journalistic work from him.

It is unsurprising that no news outlet reported on his alleged findings, aside from Exodus Cry, which is obviously an WP:RSBIAS given its ideological positioning. Given these issues, along with the serious WP:BLP concerns (WP:BLPREMOVE, WP:BLPCRIME, and others) associated with some of the sensational claims, this citation needs to be removed along with all content based on it. Acoustical (talk) 23:45, 11 December 2025 (UTC)

It is highly disingenuous to say Mulholland is nothing more than a blogger. The article on Medium was clearly highly researched, included numerous quotes and conversations from Vollenweider himself as well as lengthy interviews with various models who worked with D&E Media and made cogent claims of coercion and sexual violence.

He has been cited numerous times aside from Exodus Cry and was invited as guest on the Offbeat podcast to share his reporting:https://www.deezer.com/en/episode/567476841

Beyond this article, he has published numerous other reports as a journalist or reporter:

https://muckrack.com/paul-mulholland/articles

It is completely missing the forest for the trees and ignoring the spirit of the wikipedia rule to remove his contributions and disallow citation of his investigative work in this wikipedia article. Jokicmvp2021 (talk) 23:01, 30 December 2025 (UTC)

I'll quote WP:RSP once again: Medium is a blog hosting service. As a self-published source, it is considered generally unreliable and should be avoided unless the author is a subject-matter expert or the blog is used for uncontroversial self-descriptions. Medium should never be used for third-party claims about living persons.

Writing content for some retirement plan advisory associations does not make Mulholland a "subject-matter expert" on the adult industry. Not even close. It doesn't matter which non-notable podcast invited him. Even the Wikipedia filters were triggered when you first inserted this Medium blog as a citation. Talking about "the spirit of Wikipedia", the relevant principle here is WP:5P2, which you seem to be ignoring. Acoustical (talk) 02:30, 1 January 2026 (UTC)

There are many citations on this article from AVN which have a clear bias in favor of the porn industry and whose "articles" function as essentially content advertising. Is this article really more reliable information than Exodus Cry's writeup of Mulhollands work?

> Hoping to provide “raw, fast-paced masturbation material,” Gozzling added: “My vision has always been to create something with style. Something authentic, creative and unique, but also extreme. I like when porn is real, when the sex isn’t simulated whatsoever. I like to see the girl having an experience on camera. I want my content to capture the energy that happens in a room when a girl is fucked in ways she never expected. I’m a nice guy, but when I start fucking, I turn into an animal. I can get nasty and rough. I expect to make content that reflects what I want to see: pretty girls in cute outfits getting fucked rough and sloppy!”

“Facefuck Friend Request” features Gozzling in separate scenes with Alina West, Liza Rowe, Mandy Muse and Angel Smalls.

After living in the San Francisco Bay Area the last 10 years, Gozzling considers it home. “I started HookupHotshot.com in Oakland,” he said. “It’s where I shot the first dates.” That was in Spring 2014. He’s now shot about 30 dates. And he’s absorbed inspiration from other filmmakers, including some of his new stablemates at Evil Angel. “Rocco, Brandon Iron, Jay Sin, John ‘Buttman’ Stagliano, Mike Adriano, the guys at Facial Abuse, Jonni Darkko—all of them have been big influences on me, and I admire them all for different reasons.” Jokicmvp2021 (talk) 23:21, 30 December 2025 (UTC)

Firstly, AVN is considered generally reliable for the adult industry per WP:RSP. Secondly, Exodus Cry is clearly an WP:RSBIAS, as it has been seeking the abolition of the legal commercial sex industry, including pornography, strip clubs, and sex work, and its messaging has been compared to that of some far-right (neo-Nazis and white supremacists) and extremist Christian groups, according to Exodus Cry's own Wikipedia article (where the relevant sources are cited). For contentious claims involving BLPs, we'd need much stronger sources than an unreliable Medium blog and an WP:RSBIAS that simply paraphrases the said Medium blog. Acoustical (talk) 02:34, 1 January 2026 (UTC)

The "Medium blog" contains detailed interviews and testimonies from 5+ former models who worked with D&E and suffered grievous sexual abuse, quotes from interview with the CEO of D&E Media himself, and detailed review of the claimed abuses with an attorney to determine their seriousness within the context of the law.

The AVN post reads as an advertisement for a new pornographic series and at the end D&E is mentioned as a throwaway. This itself reads as a "appeal to authority" fallacy to conclude AVN is blanket always more reliable than anything published on Medium based on that WP:RSP page.

With that aside, can we use the Offbeat podcast as a source? Mulholland was a guest on this podcast and explained the allegations and his investigation to host Tommie McDonald. Offbeat also released a 2.5 hour interview with former D&E Media model Felicity Feline who has alleged the company committed grave abuses against her.

https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/offbeat/facialabuse-2-year-probe-CYHPm2kOUhA/?srsltid=AfmBOopJ9Elp5a8J_wYZaOBPo2NFSdZE5UgeMjGNFo0A3Luty-GO3uWa

https://www.deezer.com/en/episode/567476841 Jokicmvp2021 (talk) 02:25, 3 January 2026 (UTC)

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I've found a couple of additional verifiability issues which need to be addressed:

34. Purcell, Emily (22 July 2015). "Young women are being recruited in droves to be part of a degrading sex act". Mamamia. Retrieved 20 September 2025.

This source contains 11 mentions of "facial abuse"; however, at least 9 of them refer to the act of facial abuse (notice how "facial abuse" is written in all lower case on 9 instances). There is only one direct reference to the "Facial Abuse" website, where it is described as "the most well-known site". As such, this source does not verify any of the claims in the Clayra Beau paragraph under the 'Allegations of misconduct' section or the quote in the first paragraph of the 'Content' section, both of which should be removed entirely per WP:V and WP:SYNTH.

54. "What is wrong with you Anastasia Rose?". Mike South. 12 March 2018. Retrieved 25 September 2025.

55. "The Anastasia Rose Video Proof". Mike South. 22 March 2018. Retrieved 25 September 2025.

These two sources are cited in the final paragraph of the 'Allegations of misconduct' section, but neither source explicitly describes Anastasia Rose's allegations as they are presented in the article. Instead, both sources merely rebut or dispute the broader claims made in her social media posts. Therefore, placing this paragraph under the 'Allegations of misconduct' section constitutes undue weight per WP:UNDUE, and may also verge on BLP issues outlined in WP:BLPCRIME and WP:AVOIDVICTIM. I propose the removal of this paragraph. Acoustical (talk) 02:10, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

While Medium is a self-published platform, this assessment overlooks the substance and reach of the work itself. The piece is relevant, read and shared by thousands of people, covered by podcasts and articles, and cited in multiple interviews. Moreover, WP:RSP does not impose a blanket ban on Medium; it allows for exceptions where the author demonstrates recognized expertise or where the work has received significant independent coverage. On that basis, summary removal without evaluating the author’s credentials and the article’s independent reception is not warranted. ~2025-41436-46 (talk) 20:39, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

There is no policy that assesses the reliability of a source based on the number of people who have read it. WP:RSP is very clear about the use of Medium as a source: Medium is a blog hosting service. As a self-published source, it is considered generally unreliable and should be avoided unless the author is a subject-matter expert or the blog is used for uncontroversial self-descriptions. Medium should never be used for third-party claims about living persons. The WP:BURDEN is therefore on you to demonstrate that Mulholland qualifies as a “subject-matter expert.” I tried to verify this but could not find any indication that he has notable journalistic credentials.

The Exodus Cry article itself states that Mulholland reached out to numerous news outlets with this evidence, but none replied. The only outlet that seemingly responded was Exodus Cry, which has been seeking the abolition of the legal commercial sex industry, including pornography, strip clubs, and sex work, and whose messaging has been compared to that of some far-right (neo-Nazis and white supremacists) and extremist Christian groups (as described on Exodus Cry’s own Wikipedia page, where the relevant sources are cited). This is a particularly clear-cut example of WP:RSBIAS.

In the absence of higher-quality sourcing, I have removed the entire paragraph containing these graphic WP:BLP claims. Please keep in mind that exceptional claims require exceptional sources. Accordingly, the material should not be reinserted without the addition of substantially stronger sources. Acoustical (talk) 02:37, 20 December 2025 (UTC)

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Here are a few more issues that need to be addressed:

9. Dines, Gail (2 July 2014). "UCSB, Feminism and Porn". HuffPost. Retrieved 20 September 2025.

This source makes no mention of any watchdog criticism. So the word watchdogs needs to be removed from the lede.

6. Zicari, Robert (17 July 2016). "What Kind Of A Low Rent Skivosa Does Ghetto Gaggers?". AdultFYI. Retrieved 20 September 2025.

This source does not explicitly state that Zicari felt "disgust", so the phrase expressed disgust over Ghetto Gaggers should be removed from the 'Criticism' section per WP:SYNTH.

58. Morris, Alex (23 April 2014). "The Blue Devil in Miss Belle Knox: Meet Duke Porn Star Miriam Weeks". Rolling Stone. Retrieved 20 September 2025.

59. Somarriba, Mary (5 August 2015). "The Porn Industry Is Abusive, and These Women Are Telling It Like It Is". Verily Magazine. Retrieved 20 September 2025.

These two sources are cited in the 'Media coverage' section. The Rolling Stone source does not explicitly link Knox's Facial Abuse experience to her decision to sign with a talent agency. The Verily Magazine source does not mention Facial Abuse at all, so the quote should not be attributed to its personnel. I've marked in red the portions that need to be removed per WP:SYNTH and WP:V:

Miriam Weeks's pornographic film debut, and the scene for which she was recognized and outed as adult film actress Belle Knox, was a Facial Abuse scene directed by Jimmy Hooligan. Knox initially stated she enjoyed it and it was consensual and she was not coerced or harmed, but later noted the shoot was "not the best experience" because, "they try to figure out what makes you tick and fuck with you," even though Facial Abuse personnel reassured Knox, "It's not that bad; they'll be very nice to you" during their initial talks with Knox. According to Knox, she began dissociating as she was "hit, pushed, spit on," and mocked for being a "cutter" while also being told, "I was fat, that I was a terrible feminist, was going to fail all my classes, was stupid, dumb, a slut." The experience prompted Knox, who booked the shoot without an agent, to "better protect herself" by signing on with adult film talent agency Matrix Models. In retrospect, Knox stated, "No, it wasn't a negative experience, I just regret doing it. I don't like talking about it."

63. Tolentino, Jia (29 May 2023). "Who is Matty Healy?". The New Yorker. Retrieved 20 September 2025.

64. Blanchet, Brenton (26 June 2023). "Rina Sawayama Seemingly Calls Out The 1975's Matty Healy at Glastonbury: 'I've Had Enough'". People. Retrieved 20 September 2025.

These two citations are used to support the criticism of Matty Healy by Rina Sawayama, neither of whom has any connection to D&E, making the entire paragraph a WP:COATRACK of WP:UNDUE material that is unrelated to the subject of the Wikipedia page:

Ghetto Gaggers was joked about in a February 2023 episode of The Adam Friedland Show guest starring Matty Healy. This and other controversies associated with Healy led to him being publicly criticized by Rina Sawayama four months later at the Glastonbury Festival.

Acoustical (talk) 02:12, 30 December 2025 (UTC)

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19. Gallen, Gretchen (5 January 2004). "A New Breed Of Newbie". XBIZ. Retrieved 20 September 2025.

While this source describes "a panel of veteran webmasters" and lists Mark Tiarra of Duke Dollars among the panelists, it does not explicitly tell us what Tiarra's role at the company was in 2004. Therefore, the sentence The company's webmaster in 2004 was Mark Tiarra constitutes a WP:SYNTH violation, and needs to be either rewritten or removed. Acoustical (talk) 20:48, 8 January 2026 (UTC)

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30. "Convention against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment". OHCHR. Retrieved 2026-02-11.

This United Nations source was added a week ago alongside the text allegedly simulated torture under the auspices of kinky sex. However, the source does not even mention the company, nor does it support any of these claims. This is a clear violation of WP:NOR (specifically WP:SYNTH and WP:STICKTOTHESOURCE) as well as MOS:LABEL. I have therefore restored the previously accepted version of the sentence, which was properly supported by the cited sources. Acoustical (talk) 02:38, 18 February 2026 (UTC)

WP:BALANCE

There is a lack of WP:BALANCE in a few parts of the article, particularly in the 'Allegations of misconduct' section, which is largely dedicated to unverified claims and allegations.

While searching for better sources concerning Felicity Feline's allegations, I came across videos of her pre-shoot and post-shoot recordings released by Facial Abuse. Feline's statements in these two videos appear to contradict some of the allegations described in the article. As such, I believe we should paraphrase statements relevant to these allegations in order to provide balancing viewpoints and additional context for readers. I suggest we add something along the following lines:

Facial Abuse disputed Feline's account and released recordings made before and after the shoot of the second scene. In the pre-shoot recording, Feline was informed that she would be portraying a submissive role, that performers might ask personal or invasive questions as part of the roleplay, and that she was not required to respond to topics she was uncomfortable with. She stated that she was mentally prepared for the rough sex scenes and had "watched almost every video" produced by the company. In the post-shoot recording, Feline stated that the scene had proceeded as she expected without any surprises and that she had participated with her "full and complete consent". When asked whether she would work with the company again, she responded, "Fuck yeah!"

Feel free to share any suggestions or comments. If there are no objections, I'll add this paragraph to the article. Acoustical (talk) 02:51, 1 June 2026 (UTC)

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Video hosting sites such as Rumble and YouTube are not reliable sources unless said videos are from official accounts of organizations/governments. More info can be found at WP:RELIABILITY. Evanf32 (talk) 19:09, 4 August 2026 (UTC)

WP:NPOV

There are numerous neutrality and reliability issues with the article. I have removed large sections of text that rely substantially on unreliable sources. Evanf32 (talk) 19:09, 4 August 2026 (UTC)