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Deceased Wikipedian's talk page still being archived

Need some help at User talk:Gobonobo. He passed away (RIP), but his talk page is still being archived, including peoples' condolences. Could someone change it so his talk page no longer automatically archives? NP (talk) 01:48, 24 August 2026 (UTC)

The page is missing the "do not archive template" which exists on User talk:Struway2 - Special:Diff/1318229000. That's why the talk page is archiving condolences. I also have a question for the help desk - e.g. from the talk page I've linked, {{User:ClueBot III/DoNotArchiveUntil|2076514728}}, what does the 2076514728 represent? Does it convert to 17:38, 20 October 2035 (UTC) which is displayed in the hidden comment? Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 08:23, 24 August 2026 (UTC)

That would be a Unix timestamp, i. e. the number of seconds passed since 1 January 1970. And yes, it matches that date and time. -- Maddy from Celeste (WAVEDASH) 09:27, 24 August 2026 (UTC)

I now get what that number means thanks. I added the template I found on User:Iggy the Swan/sandbox to see how this works. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 18:02, 24 August 2026 (UTC)

I think one could just comment out the MiszaBot config template to stop the archiving? -- Maddy from Celeste (WAVEDASH) 09:27, 24 August 2026 (UTC)

The page may well still need to be archived, if notifications of deletion discussions or similar are posted there. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 11:22, 24 August 2026 (UTC)

Conversely, User talk:Ronhjones has a lot of discussions under the RIP section while having the DNAU in the right place. Not sure if that template affects just one section or every section currently visible. Might well be the latter as the page history shows before May 2020 that the bot archived discussions but not after. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 18:13, 24 August 2026 (UTC)

Template:Do not archive until only affects a single section. You can use it to "pin" a thread at the top of the page, for example. But the page you mentioned doesn't have any template that would enable archiving in the first place – presumably that was removed at some point (it does have an archive indexing bot template). -- Maddy from Celeste (WAVEDASH) 18:19, 24 August 2026 (UTC)

In the event of my death

Hi. I've been fighting cancer for most of the year, and have been very ill, I have been quite near to death sadly. If all goes well, I should survive, but its not unreasonable to say I could pass away even relatively quickly from a sudden infection for example, and may not have time to notify people of my passing. As I'd like my user page and talkpage to be protected in the event of my death, what should I do? Edlectro28 (talk) 15:12, 16 September 2026 (UTC)

Hi, sorry to hear that, there is some guidance at Wikipedia:Deceased Wikipedians/Guidelines#Planning ahead, do come back if you have more questions. TSventon (talk) 15:21, 16 September 2026 (UTC)

@Edlectro28 One suggestion might be to set up a kind of "dead man's switch" template on your userpage. You could create a template which says something like "If I haven't edited for [a week/a month/etc] I may be deceased, please replace the content of my userpage with [another template]".

For what it's worth, I sincerely pray you're able to overcome your disease. Athanelar (talk) 15:50, 16 September 2026 (UTC)

I had wondered about this. Will do. Thanks for your prayers Edlectro28 (talk) 16:59, 16 September 2026 (UTC)

@Edlectro28: Hi, I had a rare form of Hodgkin's lymphoma a number of years ago and am still here thanks to some intensive chemo. I hope all goes well for you. Best, MinorProphet (talk) 15:46, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

Thank you so much, and congrats to you! I'm also on some high intensity form of chemo, it's all horrible but the side effects aren't as bad now I'm having it post operation. Wishing good health to you buddy. Edlectro28 (talk) 16:42, 21 September 2026 (UTC)

@Edlectro28: Many thanks, and to you too you. I suggest (perhaps controversially) that is possible to make friends with the dark destroyer: do you know Death Be Not Proud by John Donne? Consider also "All will be well, and all manner of thing shall be well" by Julian of Norwich, woven into T.S. Eliot's "Little Gidding" from Four Quartets. Very best wishes, MinorProphet (talk) 14:57, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

Is there a way to see the last time 'In the news' was updated?

{{In the news}}

This could be a user script for my own use while I am logged in (similar to any gadget, but most similar is the XTools gadget), or it could be a new suggestion in the ITN guideline which could say "at the end of the ITN template, please state the last update time by signing with five tildes (~~~~~) or by using a diff link". Feel free to move this to a more relevant forum. Thanks. Hason-LEK-SIN ● 💬 ● 🧱 ● 🧪 13:40, 20 September 2026 (UTC)

@Hason-LEK-SIN: The bottom of all pages say "This page was last edited on [date], [time]". Wikipedia:Tools/Navigation popups says how long ago a page was edited when you hover over a link to it. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:51, 20 September 2026 (UTC)

Okay, the last edited time at the footer could be a workaround. Thanks! Hason-LEK-SIN ● 💬 ● 🧱 ● 🧪 14:16, 20 September 2026 (UTC)

Failing that, see the page history. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 19:26, 20 September 2026 (UTC)

Oh wait, the Main Page doesn't display the last update date, but then again I could add the ITN template to my watchlist. :) Hason-LEK-SIN ● 💬 ● 🧱 ● 🧪 00:27, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

@Hason-LEK-SIN: The update time of Main Page is hidden because it would be misleading to readers. Most of the displayed content changes every day but it's transcluded from other pages. "last edited" only refers to the wikitext of the page itself and Main Page hasn't been edited since 12 June 2026. It's the only page with a hidden date. A page cannot hide the date on its own. It's done at MediaWiki:Vector-2022.css#L-14. The date is still sent to the browser but with an added CSS rule to not display it. It can be revealed with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page?safemode=1 which omits loading various CSS and JavaScript. Many wikis do display the date but should probably hide it like us. I'm Danish and the Danish Wikipedia hid it on my request. Their main page only has one edit since 2008 but some of the content changes daily. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:18, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

Notability of biblical figures

Do we have a specific policy on the notability of people mentioned in the Bible? How about the Quran? If not. what would be the closest notability guideline? --Guy Macon (talk) 05:32, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Notability (people) is the policy. I don't see how being mentioned in the Bible or Quran would make any difference. Shantavira|^{feed me} 06:55, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

I think this is probably a policy gap where it would be sensible to have some kind of presumed notability. I would imagine that given the sheer volume of academic study of these texts, there must be significant coverage available for any and every named figure in them. Athanelar (talk) 10:59, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

List of biblical figures identified in extra-biblical sources is quite extensive, and they are virtually all blue links already. No doubt there are many more about whom we know nothing at all except that their name appears in the Bible. Shantavira|^{feed me} 12:14, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

At Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Blastus (2010) theer were two opinions posted:

[1] "Though this individual is a biblical character, without provide additional scholarship which verifies the individual's importance (i.e. Reliable secondary sources which deal with the individual), this individual is not notable. The New Testament isn't so important in a scholarly/encyclopedic sense as to warrant articles on each named minor individual. A list perhaps, which contains individuals in said book, but not individual articles."

[2] "The Bible and Qu'ran are significant enough, and covered by so many sources, that any person mentioned in either will be the subject of significant coverage"

Now the same question appears to be surfacing at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hul (biblical figure) (ongoing AfD). --Guy Macon (talk) 12:50, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

The "Wikipedia rule" that comes to my mind first, when I read the article, is that Hul definitely does not meet SIGCOV inside the Bible. He is merely mentioned, twice, in genealogy tables. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 16:44, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

There is a lot of begatting in the Bible, and undoubtedly several figures who are hapax legomenona known by name only. The most famous of these would be, or so I assume, in the conflicting genealogies of Jesus. Shall research. kencf0618 (talk) 16:46, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

Yes, I would say if we did presume notability of scriptural figures then a notable exception would be anyone who is only namedropped in a genealogy. Athanelar (talk) 19:32, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

The Christian texts must be among the most-studied published works ever. Over the last 2,000 years there have probably been sufficient students of Christian theology to have analysed the Bible from end to end, many times over. This includes the apocrypha and other historical texts that, while related, are not normally bundled with those (Secret Gospel of Mark, anyone?). In these researches, these students have, between them, probably covered every single aspect of interpersonal relationships, not just the begetting. In the libraries of Oxford and Cambridge there's a wealth of published work that would satisfy WP:V, it just needs somebody to go and read it all. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 22:36, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

My mum became obsessed with Christianity at an early age. She even refused to marry my dad (who turned out to be a complete asshole) unless he was baptised as an Anglican, and subsequently named me, her oldest son, after Jeremiah. I feel the weight of thousands of years of biblical exegesis upon my shoulders - a bit like Atlas: thus woe unto the lot of you, and no mistake. MinorProphet (talk) 15:22, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

The result of the AfD for Hul (biblical figure) was no consensus (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hul (biblical figure) ). I was surprised, given the sourcing and the only mention in the Bible being in a couple of genealogies. I can't imagine any name mentioned in the Bible or Quran (and maybe the Book of Mormon) that doesn't have some speculation in ancient texts or Bible/Quran religious dictionaries, so it appears that they are all notable. Oh well. I seldom edit any religion page, so Not My Clown. Not My Circus. --Guy Macon (talk) 11:31, 30 September 2026 (UTC)

Paid editing offer

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Today, I received an email offering to create a Wikipedia draft/article for me. I uploaded screenshots of the email to Wikimedia Commons so that I could show the Wikipedia community the offer as evidence.

The files are:

• File:Paid editing offer.jpg
• File:Recived mail from wiki user.jpg

The email appears to promote the services of Wikipedia Publishers. The website advertises Wikipedia page development, draft creation and submission, content updates, restoration and dispute resolution, and ongoing monitoring. It also lists paid Wikipedia packages.Pawan CA7 (talk) 12:15, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

please instead send this to the email address discussed at WP:REPORTPAID. Please read the scam warning. 331dot (talk) 12:20, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

It should probably be noted that User:Sophiabennett declares a CoI with regard to at least some of the articles listed on her user page. AndyTheGrump (talk) 12:23, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

As you may know it's not uncommon at all for scammers to impersonate legitimate editors. 331dot (talk) 12:26, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

Meaning I should pay him and get the work done correct??? Wiki allowed that? Pawan CA7 (talk) 12:28, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

Again, please read the scam warning. We generally advise people never to pay money for someone to edit Wikipedia. However, the choice is ultimately yours. 331dot (talk) 12:31, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

Well well well.... let see thank you.... Pawan CA7 (talk) 12:32, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

Hi Andy,

I am not the same person mentioned in attachements. Thanks Sophiabennett (talk) 12:47, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

References

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Query re editors

Hi

Is it legitimate that someone who says they are an experienced Wikipedia editor would contact you to write a Wikipedia page about you? ~2026-51752-65 (talk) 23:49, 24 September 2026 (UTC)

No, that is a common scam. Please don't give them any money. They will almost certainly just take your money and then do nothing.

You can read the Wikipedia:Scam warning page for more information. Please feel free to reach out if you need any help or have any questions.

This is a scam, please don't give any money to them. ‑‑gurkubondinn 00:26, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-51752-65: There are some editors on here who do write on behalf of subjects, but they are obligated to declare any conflicts of interest or paid relationships. Someone who reaches out unsolicited and asks for money in exchange for creating an article should be scrutinised carefully, as more often than not it's a scam. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 00:26, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

I think that is generous to the point of being misleading. Your "more often than not" seems likely to equal 999,999 times out of a million. It's a scam. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 03:55, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

I would hope people would be able to tell if something is too good to be true, but alas, 'tis rare. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 05:43, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

That also, but implying that such an offer might have the possibility of being legitimate by saying it needs scrutiny, when in fact scrutiny is a waste of time and gives undue credit to the scammers, and when there is no potential for it to be legitimate, is probably not helpful. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 13:51, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

Virat Kohli six sot

~2026-51551-86 (talk) 02:21, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

I am not sure what you are asking. Please clarify. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 08:03, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

This is presumably about Virat Kohli, but like Spiderone, I've no idea what you are asking. ColinFine (talk) 08:43, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

"Six shot", duh - I imagine it might be a bit like what Gary Sobers did back in 1968, but I'm no cricket fan... MinorProphet (talk) 15:37, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

No review for several months

Hello, back in April I made a number of changes recommended by an editor from the wikipedia-en-help channel, however there doesn't seem to be any indication yet regarding whether the submission has been accepted or rejected, or whether there are additional changes requested. I was wondering if I still need to make any changes, or whether I need to get in touch with anyone to ensure that my submission gets reviewed. Thank you so much - any and all feedback and suggestions are greatly appreciated! Aaron E. Philipp-Muller (talk) 02:47, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

Is this in regards to Draft:Online Therapy Unit? If so, it doesn't look like it was ever resubmitted for review? DonIago (talk) 03:22, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

I am not a qualified reviewer of articles, but it appears to me that this article would benefit greatly from a significant increase in references to mainstream public-facing journalism (if I can call it that - I think you probably know what I mean anyway). TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 03:38, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

(Just a note that since this article was last reviewed, the reviewer was banned from Wikipedia on other matters, so unfortunately we can't ask them about it.) TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 03:43, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

@Aaron E. Philipp-Muller: your article was declined multiple times, but you never resubmitted it, so it has not been awaiting review. If you would like another review, you'll need to hit the "Resubmit" button. You'll know it was successful when a yellow template appears saying your draft is awaiting review. ^{In solidarity,} 🏳️‍🌈JohnLaurens333 ^{(They/them • Talk • Contribs)} 03:59, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

Thank you! I've hit the resubmit button and I'm now getting a yellow box that says "review waiting, please be patient". Hopefully it will now get reviewed! Aaron E. Philipp-Muller (talk) 05:19, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

It did, and according to the latest review, the comments from previous reviews still stand. This means that whatever you changed before resubmitting, you failed to deal with any of the main points they made.

If journalists even in Regina and Saskatoon have had nothing major to say about this program (let alone journalists in other places), there is almost certainly no point in continuing to tinker with the irrelevant parts of the draft. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 04:42, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

AI images policy

Hi folks. I found myself on the Margay page following links from Tilcayo. I noted some discussion of AI use for images previously uploaded to the Tilcayo page, which are now on the Margay page. Comparing these images with the other two on the Margay article, I continue to have suspicions. The contrast between the orange and white, and the perfectly straight whiskers, both seem a giveaway. I'm curious about what the process is for flagging/querying possibly-AI-generated images, it's not something I've come across before. Medievalfran (talk) 12:32, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

I am a passerby, but which images are you specifically talking about? ✶Quxyz✶ (talk) 13:15, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

@Medievalfran Images are hosted on Commons and the guidance there is at c:Commons:AI-generated media. Putting such images into en:Wikipedia articles should probably be discussed on the relevant article's talk page. However, see WP:AIIMAGES which suggests that use here should be very limited. Mike Turnbull (talk) 14:50, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

Ministry of Culture (France)

 Courtesy link: Ministry of Culture (France) Hello! Can you help me with the links (sources) in the "History" section of the article? There are no sources. Need to insert them. For translation into Russian. СтасС (talk) 15:34, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

I want to create\write this article on Russian.--СтасС (talk) 16:05, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

Unfortunately, we have none because the person who wrote that part of the article did not do it properly. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 17:04, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

ОК.--СтасС (talk) 17:16, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

@СтасС That article already exists in 20 languages. As you would expect, the French version has better sourcing for the history. Mike Turnbull (talk) 20:55, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

Redirect help, AfD and extant draft

Hi! This is re: User_talk:Star_Mississippi#Requesting_guidance.... @BhikhariInformer‬ closed Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Klaudio Krasniqi as draftify only to realize Draft:Klaudio Krasniqi. Since @VampireKilla already merged the info (no issue-courtesy ping) I'd think we need to keep the redirect for attribution, but then there's R2. I wasn't sure how to proceed so told Bikhari I'd drop a note here. Appreciate any advice or handling. Thank you! Star Mississippi 18:43, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

Not really sure, suppose since the content is the same could just delete the article for now and keep the current draft as is until such a time that it's ready to be restored? VampireKilla (talk) 21:30, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

Standards and guidelines for video game lists

Next discussion: WP:HD#Titles without Wikipedia page on lists.

Almost all of the video game lists have different layouts and info. See List of ZX Spectrum games, List of Nintendo Entertainment System games, List of Xbox 360 games (A–L) etc. Wouldn't it be more pleasant looking and professional if they were uniform? What are the guidelines for these lists? AngelSparkles (talk) 22:25, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

The info is limited to what's been published in reliable sources; you can't add in things just because you know them.

As far as layout, they don't need to be the same, but you are definitely free to go to the Talk page of one article and say "I think this other article is laid out better, for [these reasons], and I think we should change this one to be more like it." TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 22:39, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

Thanks for replying @TooManyFingers. In my opnion it would be a lot cleaner if they all followed the same guidelines. Like if somebody decides to make a new list for an upcoming console he's free to do whatever he wants with it? That doesn't make sense. Maybe with AI we can make then all uniform. Changing them manually will take a very long time now. AngelSparkles (talk) 18:43, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

We do not permit the use of AI to edit Wikipedia. AndyTheGrump (talk) 19:03, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

This isn't something that rises to the level of needing codification in the WP:MOS. There are no deadlines, so if people agree that your proposed format is better, they can choose to redo it in the new layout. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 19:28, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

@Tenryuu @TooManyFingers Hm ok. Are videogames that have no Wikipedia page allowed on lists? The page List of ZX Spectrum games is full of them. AngelSparkles (talk) 15:12, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

Robert Bosch, disambiguation

We have Robert Bosch, Robert Bosch Jr., Robert A. Bosch, and Bosch (company), whose full name is Robert Bosch GmbH, so would it be better to create a disambiguation page (Robert Bosch (disambiguation))? ~2026-51931-88 (talk) 23:03, 25 September 2026 (UTC)

Yes. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 07:18, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

windward fund

The wikipedia article on the Windward Fund is absolutely incorrect and is a politicalized farce. Windward Fund. ~2026-51790-22 (talk) 01:27, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

It's only two paragraphs. What do you object to? ^{In solidarity,} 🏳️‍🌈JohnLaurens333 ^{(They/them • Talk • Contribs)} 01:37, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

Weird display of text using "green" template

I was typing the following text:

*{{green|Its mass fraction gravitational binding energy EB/Mc2 would then be 0.187, −18.7% (exothermic). This is not near 0.6/2 = 0.3, −30%.}} Where did 30% come from?

However, it ended up rendering as this:

• {{{1}}} Where did 30% come from?

Where is the {{{1}}} coming from and how do I make it say the actual text I put? Shocksingularity (talk) 03:14, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

@Shocksingularity: The problem is coming from the unescaped = you have in the template. It thinks there's a parameter called Its mass fraction gravitational binding energy EB/Mc2 would then be 0.187, −18.7% (exothermic). This is not near 0.6/2 being defined by a value of 0.3, −30%. You have to turn it into an escape character; use {{=}} where the = is. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 03:22, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

OH that makes sense. I thought maybe it was the equal sign but I wasn't sure what to do about it. Shocksingularity (talk) 03:26, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

@Shocksingularity: Another way is to explicitly number the parameter: {{green|1=Its mass fraction gravitational binding energy EB/Mc2 would then be 0.187, −18.7% (exothermic). This is not near 0.6/2 = 0.3, −30%.}} → Its mass fraction gravitational binding energy EB/Mc2 would then be 0.187, −18.7% (exothermic). This is not near 0.6/2 = 0.3, −30%. This works because once the parser has detected the first equals sign, any others are treated literally. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 09:04, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

Swindon Mechanics' Institute & Redundant Citations

I have carried out a major update of the Swindon Mechanics' Institute article. As a result references 3 is no longer cited in the article. How do I remove it from the list of references. Mydaemonthirst (talk) 06:25, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

@Mydaemonthirst It is used to reference a photo caption in the history section. Is that no longer correct? To remove it just edit the caption.  Courtesy link: Swindon Mechanics' Institute. Shantavira|^{feed me} 07:02, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

Thanks for that. I've actually corrected the URL for the citation rather than removing the reference. Mydaemonthirst (talk) 11:12, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

I am Dwijendra Singh

I am Dwijendra Singh, a retired CSIR-CIMAP scientist. I have a conflict of interest because the proposed biography concerns me. I have collected independent published sources about my research, including coverage in New Scientist. I would appreciate guidance from an uninvolved volunteer editor on whether these sources are sufficient for a biography and how I should proceed through Articles for Creation. Entomology53 (talk) 10:40, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

@Entomology53, you should be aiming to show how published reliable sources about you meet one of the criteria at WP:ACADEMIC. Choose the one that you think fits you best and then, in this thread, specify exactly three sources which would back up that notability. Then we can advise further. Please also read WP:SCAM, now you have posted here. Mike Turnbull (talk) 11:45, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

Hello

Is there a tool which I can use to quickly revert edit just from seeing (user's) edit history or is there none? Rollback doesn't work when the edit is years old or other recent edits to the pages have been made. zglph^•talk• 11:43, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

Hi, @Zglph!

You can take a look at Wikipedia:Tools and Wikipedia:Editing tools to see which tool suits you to quickly revert edits just from seeing the page history!

Happy editing! (⁠◕⁠ᴗ⁠◕⁠✿⁠) Zahrazamedahmedi (🗨️My Talk Page🗨️) (🫗My Mistakes🫗) 12:33, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

Sorry, the above reply was not helpful to me. Can anyone with their knowledge of tools help me out with the query? zglph^•talk• 16:55, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

Hi again, @Zglph!

Try taking a look at Wikipedia:Cleaning up vandalism/Tools to see which tool you can use to revert an edit just from seeing the page history!

Again, happy editing! (⁠◕⁠ᴗ⁠◕⁠✿⁠) Zahrazamedahmedi (🗨️My Talk Page🗨️) (🫗My Mistakes🫗) 17:08, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

I think they're looking for a tool that lets them revert from the user contributions page, not from the page history of an article. SomeoneDreaming (talk) 19:48, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

In that case WP:POPUPS is the tool for the job (and man others!) Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 12:32, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

Do I need a fresh start? Am I permitted to?

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Today I feel very shocked and upset after learning I am apparently in a bad standing here. I could go on about how painful this is to find out, I don't know what to do. I thought my editing history was good and I was working toward and had become a valuable contributor, this is really the first I've heard about anything like this. Therefore, I am at a loss at what to do. I am going to need a fresh start if I want hope at having any advanced permissions etc?

Am I in too bad a standing to get a fresh start?

Generally, what is my best cause of action?

I don't do anything, especially edit, in any sense of bad faith. I came here because I wanted help with what to do, but I also ask if there's a place you can get your standing reassessed here. Pinging @Pppery to show I'm not going over their head, just asking a question. Edlectro28 15:47, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

@Edlectro28: with a cursory look at User:Pppery's messages and your talk page, it doesn't look as though you're in bad standing. You just need some more experience before applying to permissions. You can have a fresh start if you really want to, but I'd advise you to just get some more experience with sourcing and the like before you apply to more advanced permissions. ^{In solidarity,} 🏳️‍🌈JohnLaurens333 ^{(They/them • Talk • Contribs)} 15:55, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

I thought I had a pretty good amount of experience for this, I regularly do recent changes and written quite a few articles, but that's a separate discussion. Do you have any idea why they cited warnings as the reason if experience was likely the issue? Good to hear though. Edlectro28 15:59, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

I assume they cited warnings as a direct tie to experience, assuming that getting frequent warnings about sourcing means you need experience with sourcing (which is usually true). ^{In solidarity,} 🏳️‍🌈JohnLaurens333 ^{(They/them • Talk • Contribs)} 16:04, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

Thanks. I've never been warned about sourcing though. Can I request for a different admin to post their opinion Edlectro28 16:07, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

It looks like they were also referring to times where your edits were reverted for lack of sourcing. ^{In solidarity,} 🏳️‍🌈JohnLaurens333 ^{(They/them • Talk • Contribs)} 16:16, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

Understood. I wouldn't say I have a history of that at all, maybe a few examples when I had little experience, but that feels like cherry picking and ignoring all the good work I've done. Can I request someone else takes a look, is it worth it if so? Edlectro28 16:23, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

I'm not sure if you can formally request another admin to review your request, but you could just ping an admin or ask them on their talk page. You might tell User:Pppery what you've said here or wait for them to respond here first. ^{In solidarity,} 🏳️‍🌈JohnLaurens333 ^{(They/them • Talk • Contribs)} 16:29, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

I alerted Pppery of the question I asked there on their talk page, and pinged them here. Hopefully they will respond, I'm eager to find out what I should do Edlectro28 16:31, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

(edit conflict) I don't have anything more to say on the matter, other than my reply at PERM and that the claim that I've never been warned about sourcing is false. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 16:31, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

Ah I can clarify about that. I warned someone for blanking, then they warned me for that with the unsourced tag. On the link you sent you can see we managed to resolve the issue, so I don’t see what the issue is? Edlectro28 16:35, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

@Edlectro28, one editor to another, take on what experienced editor have said about some of the errors you have made. Every single editor on Wikipedia has made an error or two over time, I certainly have. There usually isn't a problem with making mistakes as long as you don't make the same mistakes going forward.

As far as permissions are concerned (in this case Pending Changes) then concentrate on ensuring you take your time assessing edits before reverting. One thing that might help you achieve this is spending time looking at pc to see if you would make the same decision as the person who addresses the change. Would you have accepted it or denied it etc. Take your time looking at padt changes and what your decision would have been. You're welcome to ignore this suggestion of course. Hope this helps, Knitsey (talk) 16:45, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

Thank you, I think it’s harsh I’m getting judged off of a couple warnings that got sorted out quickly. Edlectro28 16:47, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

It's not harsh, it is just an assessment of one tiny aspect of your editing. It isn't personal. Permissions are an extra responsibility. I didn't get rollback the first time I requested it. I 'listened' to what was suggested, edited for a couple of months then applied again. Keep editing, understand the mistakes you might make and apply again later.

Later is subjective and there is no point rushing it or putting a timescale on reapplying. Knitsey (talk) 16:54, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

Knitsey? I’m going to be honest with you, I’m so hurt by all this there’s no way I can come back on work on Wikipedia. I’ve obviously done something to upset Pppery who isn’t acting rationally, and if admins are finding issues with me for the fun of it, that just invalidates Wikipedia as anything worth contributing to. Edlectro28 16:57, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

@Edlectro28 - it's not personal. It could have been written in a nicer way but it's normal for editors to not yet meet criteria for various permissions. It's absolutely nothing worth getting upset over, though. I recommend taking a step back for a bit. qcne (talk) 17:00, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

That reply along with the pigheaded comment is indicative of you not listening to the reasons behind the permission you asked for being denied. PC is not essential to being a productive editor. It is one tiny aspect of editing. People are denied permissions every day. It isn't saying you can never have PC, it is saying work on a few things first. This is life. Knitsey (talk) 17:02, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

Well it doesn’t matter. I’m clearly not wanted here. I’m probably going to die soon anyway, so might as well just stop now. Edlectro28 17:03, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

I know you said you don’t have anything more to say, but please, I urge you to reconsider. Your concerns have explanations I believe get me off the hook. Edlectro28 16:43, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

(edit conflict) The issue is that I don't trust you to review others edits when so many of your own recent edits have been negatively reviewed by others. And frankly I'm not impressed by you trying to defend yourself with a false claim. I don't have anything more to say on this matter -- this will be my final comment here. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 16:44, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

Your judgment is flawed and you’ve been very pig headed here. This is so incredibly demoralising that I cannot continue to contribute to Wikipedia. Edlectro28 16:49, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

@Edlectro28 It's not the end of the world to be denied an advanced editing permission. Just keep editing and gaining experience until you've demonstrated that you can use the privilege productively. Advanced editing privileges aren't rewards for good behaviour, they're—as the name suggests—additional privileges (and responsibilities) which allow you to perform some additional tasks; so to earn them, you have to demonstrate that you can be trusted with those additional responsibilities and that you'll carry them out well.

You don't need a fresh start. Just take the feedback you've been given, keep editing in good faith, and eventually if you feel the need to reapply for the permission then you'll have the experience to show that you can use it well. Athanelar (talk) 17:00, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

I guess I would’ve appreciated if Pppery had chosen kinder words in their reply, though I’m burdened with empathy. Clearly they aren’t Edlectro28 17:01, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

• I agree with Pperry, he's just being direct with the user. It's a different thing that it is perceived as wholly negative rather than trying to wait further and seek advanced permissions in future.zglph^•talk• 17:05, 26 September 2026 (UTC)
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Image gallery displaying above hatnotes – what?

I accessed Queen Mary University of London today from a mobile device, using the default appearance setting (Vector 2022). The particular page is probably not relevant, but I figured I'd provide it. At the very top of the article, below the title, there is a scrollable image gallery with all the pictures displayed later on in the article. I figured this was a Manual of Style/Layout error and went to correct it, but this image gallery doesn't show up in the source. Is this some new 'feature'? Is it a bug?

Thanks! —§§ LegFun §§ talk §§ 17:07, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

Hi, @LegesFundamentales!

Try seeing Wikipedia:Bug reports and feature requests to check if the bug was reported. (⁠◕⁠ᴗ⁠◕⁠✿⁠) Zahrazamedahmedi (🗨️My Talk Page🗨️) (🫗My Mistakes🫗) 17:11, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

Huh, seems it's somehing the WMF people are experimenting with. I think they're calling it the carousel media viewer setting? (Based on this: .)

I'm not sure I like how it overrides the standard layout...

—§§ LegFun §§ talk §§ 17:25, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

Maybe, but hopefully the bug you're experiencing will be fixed soon!

Happy editing! (⁠◕⁠ᴗ⁠◕⁠✿⁠) Zahrazamedahmedi (🗨️My Talk Page🗨️) (🫗My Mistakes🫗) 17:28, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

@LegesFundamentales: It's a deliberate feature called "Image carousel". You can disable it at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-betafeatures. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:05, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter

Oh dear, I had worried it might be. How dreadful! (In my view, at least.) Is it WMF policy to irritate editors as much as possible by overriding the agreed-upon layout? Can't they keep their corporate crap on their side of the line and leave us, the ones who actually produce the contents of Wikipedia that attracts millions of people to the site, alone?

I suppose I had better see whether there's a campaign to resist this nonsensical change underway. Meanwhile, I'll toggle this beta feature off, using the link you handily provided.

—§§ LegFun §§ talk §§ 19:23, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

I thought they agreed to turn that off after an outcry a few months ago when they were beta testing it and people pointed out the problems with images being divorced from their contexts, and some unfortunate cropping on images featuring nudity. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 20:03, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

Yeah, RFC from June, that was formally closed just a few days ago noting that it had been returned to Beta and "The WMF should provide its next update at an appropriate noticeboard. The WMF should give the community ample opportunity to run an RfC regarding the proposed launch version of the feature." ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 20:08, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

That last quotation could have been fair and good, but it turned out unfair and bad. All that's needed is to remove the word "version", so that the RfC becomes "whether to launch" rather than "which version". TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 22:52, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

Adding a section

I added a section on the Sarah and Josiah Moore house where the Villisca killings occurred about every show featuring the house but I can't decide if they should go under the Villisca axe murders or not. ~2026-51931-91 (talk) 19:44, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

It seems you probably need to read Wikipedia:Reliable sources. Some (maybe all?) of your material was based on unreliable sources, and that's probably why your edits were reverted. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 21:37, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

Opening paragraph for this article needs revision

Hello! I noticed that this opening paragraph is written weirdly/incorrectly, it should probably be fixed: In the Name of Blossom. Nicereddy (talk) 21:21, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

You are free to do so yourself, or you may propose the specific changes you want with a formal edit request on the article talk page. 331dot (talk) 21:25, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

I reverted a recent edit that made no sense. Thank you for noticing. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 21:27, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

Danny Lane – obtaining wider review of sourcing and scope discussion

I have opened a sourcing and scope discussion at Talk:Danny Lane#Undisclosed paid-editing block: review of fourfold 2016 article expansion.

The editor responsible for the fourfold 2016 expansion has since been indefinitely blocked for undisclosed paid editing. An experienced editor has proposed reconstructing the article from the pre-expansion version while retaining subsequent well-sourced material, but the discussion has attracted little wider participation. I have also left a neutral notice at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Visual arts.

Before starting an RfC, I would be grateful for advice on the usual next step. Is an RfC appropriate here, or is there a better venue for obtaining broader uninvolved review of a sourcing, due-weight and article-scope question of this kind?

Thanks in advance. Aequoratlas (talk) 21:47, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

Do you see any good reason to not just proceed as the experienced editor suggested, omitting all the other steps you've mentioned? TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 22:44, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

What I mean is, you don't need an RfC to cut garbage out of an article. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 22:46, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

My hesitation was simply the age of the overwrite and the intervening good-faith edits. Given that an editor familiar with the article has already suggested a way of preserving those, I will take it back to the article talk page rather than add another layer of process. Much appreciated. ~~~~ Aequoratlas (talk) 22:59, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

Age of the inappropriate edits is certainly unimportant. Your other concern IS important, so I'm glad it's being dealt with. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 23:09, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

Noted with thanks. Aequoratlas (talk) 23:20, 26 September 2026 (UTC)

User script for sentence case?

Is there any user script that would allow me to select text and automatically change its case (which would usually be to convert it from title to sentence case)? Thanks! Helpful Cat🐈 05:23, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

I don't know. But I can imagine that if such a script existed and was highly reliable, it could just be applied automatically in all the places where you might want to use it ... TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 05:47, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

True. I don't imagine any such script would be totally reliable (it would still require manual review), but it would save some time and effort. Helpful Cat🐈 05:54, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

I recently came across User:Epicgenius/capitalize, and it seems to do exactly what you're looking for. (CC: User:Epicgenius) — DVRTed (Talk) 06:22, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

Amazing, thanks! Helpful Cat🐈 06:25, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

I tried it and it doesn't seem to work - the links in the sidebar appear, but I click them and nothing happens. (Using the source editor in Firefox) Thanks for the recommendation, though! Helpful Cat🐈 06:44, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

Ah! I just skimmed through the code; it won't work if you have syntax highlighting enabled (Preferences -> Editing -> Enable syntax highlighting for wikitext). (Epicgenius, if you want to add support for it, here's an example of how I did it for a similar script: special:diff/1325653048.) — DVRTed (Talk) 06:58, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

Oh, thanks for figuring that out. That helps because I can just temporarily disable syntax highlighting with the toolbar button and then the script works, without me having to go to preferences to disable it. Helpful Cat🐈 07:27, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

@DVRTed, thanks for the heads up. Yeah, that's basically what happened here (same issue came up for User:Epicgenius/sortcategories.js). I'll see if I can fix it. – Epicgenius (talk) 13:40, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

@DVRTed and @Helpful Cat, the capitalization script should work in the syntax highlighter now. Thanks for bringing up that issue. (As for the category sorting script, I'll work on that later...) – Epicgenius (talk) 13:58, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

It works now, thank you for the fix! Helpful Cat🐈 14:02, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

I use a browser plug-in for this: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/text-case-changer/ -- Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 09:03, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

Thanks, that's great too! Helpful Cat🐈 09:08, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

Referencing errors on Debagarh district

Special:Diff/1376983694

Kindly help me fix the links of Debagada district article. I couldn't be able to fix them by myself. Please help.

Thanks, Drpriyesh1 (talk) 07:46, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

I have fixed three of the four errors; see the article history. The fourth source is not responding, so I cannot find the relevant data to include. If you can see the source, please mirror the changes I made, or ask here again. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 12:01, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

Thanks a ton! 🙏 Drpriyesh1 (talk) 13:21, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

Maps of Infobox

Could somebody provide the link for the list of available maps for the fields: ' | map = .. ' and ' | pushpin_map = .. ' in infoboxes like 'organization' or 'venue' etc..? I am able to find a map, but it only lists one example ie of Japan: Template:Location_map+/relief
--Gpkp (talk) 08:26, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

See Category:Location map modules and its subcategories.

The Japan example is at Module:Location map/data/Japan; you can search for all pages begining "Module:Location map/data" like this. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 12:24, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

wow.. Thank you Pigsonthewing. --Gpkp (talk) 15:01, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

Featured Article edits

Is there any process for monitoring edits to FAs, to ensure they remain "the best articles Wikipedia has to offer"? I'm watching one which has had 66 edits in the last 24 hours. I'm not saying they're detrimental, because I don't know enough about the subject to give an opinion, but I notice one prolific, apparently good faith, editor is a registered user with no user page, less than 6 months on WP, and a talk page discussing their past errors with other articles. I'm feeling uncomfortable that a FA is being significantly edited without any monitoring. Masato.harada (talk) 11:58, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

It would be very surprising if no-one has that article on their watchlist.

Today's FA, Valley Parade, for example, has 39 page watchers. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 12:26, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

Preventing things from being edited, "just in case", is regarded as being against core Wikipedia policy. An article can usually only get protected after there is clearly an ongoing problem with that article - not because there could be one later. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 16:18, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

Hi Masato.harada. I'm a bit late to the party perhaps, but I respond anyway. Due the extensive review (at least compared to other articles) an article needs to undergo to be granted FA status, most of them probably have multiple stewards watching for anything that might detract from their FA status. Of course, this doesn't mean that they can't be vandalized or subjected to otherwise sub-standard editing, but it does generally mean someone will notice when they are. If you feel the edits you're referring to above are sub-standard in terms of relative Wikipedia policies/guidelines, you can of course WP:FIXIT yourself or revert back to last stable version per WP:STATUSQUO. You should leave an edit summary explaining why you did what you did and maybe even follow that up with a post on the article's talk page. If you're more of a WP:CAUTIOUS type, you can start a discussion about the edits on the article's talk page first, and notify others per WP:APPNOTE: I believe all FA have a template at the top of their talk pages telling who reviewed the article and when they did so. Just for reference, according to Category:Wikipedia former featured articles, there are quite a lot of articles which have been demoted from FA status; so, it's not like once an FA, always an FA. I'd imagine that most of these had nothing to do with random vandalism or bad editing and everything to due with different interpretations of or changes in the FA criteria over the years. It's sometimes helpful to remember WP:CCC when it comes to Wikipedia.

Finally, someone not having a user page isn't really a good indicator of their contributions to Wikipedia. There are lots of users who have been improving articles regularly for years that have (for whatever reason) decided not to make a user page, and there are lots users who been editing for years who only seem to spend their time making edits in their user space: often the first thing they do is create their user page. I'm only making this comment because you didn't identify the specific user that led you to posting here (you don't need to do that). If that user is making bad edits, it almost certainly has nothing to do with them not having a user page. -- Marchjuly (talk) 06:04, 29 September 2026 (UTC)

OK, thanks to you both. I'm more comfortable now. Masato.harada (talk) 06:51, 29 September 2026 (UTC)

How to view edit history of deleted pages

How do I view edit history of deleted pages without Wayback machine? Fence127 (talk) 17:27, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

Become an administrator - which requires surviving some sort of Hell Week. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{Look out it's Jimothy!} 17:32, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

Wasn't there some off-wiki service that allowed you to do this? Like wayback machine but only for Wikipedia. Fence127 (talk) 17:37, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

That was Deletionpedia, but it has been shutdown. MKFI (talk) 19:05, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

I tried 'wikibin', but it doesn't show categories which is what I'm looking for. Fence127 (talk) 19:21, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

You can view the metadata (authors+timestamps) of deleted pages using User:SD0001/deleted-metadata-link.js. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 17:47, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

I want to view the actual page before it was deleted. Fence127 (talk) 17:51, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

@Fence127: Which page and why do you want to view it? PrimeHunter (talk) 19:40, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

A category that has been G1 (patent nonsense) speedy deleted. I want to know what was on it. I remember reading it before it got deleted. Fence127 (talk) 19:44, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

I edited it too. Fence127 (talk) 19:44, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

@Fence127: You created Category:Draft namespace move redirects wiht this content:

[[File:Symbol redirect vote2.svg]]
''This category is for drafts that were moved to another namespace.''
==M==
[[Draft:Mokhtar Adbelatif Stadium]]

The only other edit was adding {{db-nonsense}}. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:47, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

I created a sandbox test with the wiki text in the box. Only the icon showed up way too big. That was the only issue. Fence127 (talk) 06:52, 28 September 2026 (UTC)

@Fence127: I don't know what your intention was but it appears you don't know how categories work or what move means. Draft:Mokhtar Adbelatif Stadium had not been moved before it was deleted and that's not how you place a page in a category. PrimeHunter (talk) 07:30, 28 September 2026 (UTC)

Now I do. This was a long time ago. Fence127 (talk) 14:15, 28 September 2026 (UTC)

Move means rename and/or move into another namespace. Fence127 (talk) 14:39, 28 September 2026 (UTC)

@Fence127: Then maybe you could create a meaningful category today but I still don't know its purpose. Many drafts were moved to mainspace to become articles. Some poor articles were moved to the draft namespace. Some userspace drafts were moved to the draft namespace as a preferred location. Some draftspace drafts were moved to the userspace of the author. Some drafts were randomly moved by vandals or confused editors and maybe moved back. Which of these or what else would the category be for and why does it need a category? It's hard to tell when the only example is a page which was never actually moved. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:18, 28 September 2026 (UTC)

I don't understand what you're asking me. Fence127 (talk) 15:34, 28 September 2026 (UTC)

@Fence127: You appear unhappy that Category:Draft namespace move redirects was deleted and said the only issue was the icon size. I'm trying to explain there were other issues which should be addressed if you want to create the category. If you don't then I'm not asking for anything. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:57, 28 September 2026 (UTC)

OK. I am just asking out of curiosity, not trying to restore the old page. Fence127 (talk) 18:47, 28 September 2026 (UTC)

Sonny with a Chance - Other media editing

I need help with editing the Other media section of the Sonny with a Chance article. This link says Cite error: The named reference "dvdbigbreak" was defined multiple times with different content (see the help page). And see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Sonny_with_a_Chance#DVD_releases ~2026-52284-22 (talk) 22:06, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

You added a reference name that already existed but added different content. I've turned it back into a refname reference only, because the reference you added is slightly less complete (the other had an archive URL, etc.). - Purplewowies (talk) 23:25, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

References

Are these reliäble sources?

Due to browser limitations, I can’t load these websites to check; are the sources posted here reliäble and are they sufficient to support the requested edit? Cheers, 𝔰𝔥𝔞𝔡𝔢𝔰𝔱𝔞𝔯 ^{(𝔱𝔞𝔩𝔨)} (any/all) 23:56, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

@Shadestar474: my first thought is that if an editor is blocked from editing articles, making edit requests for controversial topics is probably a bad idea. I am unsure what kind of editing would be a good idea.

My second thought is to check Talk:List of people named in the Epstein files, which gives four criteria for inclusion of names. The other editor has not shown that the four criteria are met. TSventon (talk) 02:19, 28 September 2026 (UTC)

Alright, thank you; just checking. Cheers, 𝔰𝔥𝔞𝔡𝔢𝔰𝔱𝔞𝔯 ^{(𝔱𝔞𝔩𝔨)} (any/all) 02:21, 28 September 2026 (UTC)

I looked at a couple of these, not knowing really what to expect from some Epstein thing, and in one of them there was a huge list of people. I immediately thought - without having known about any of what TSventon has written - "Looking at these papers without any criteria can't possibly be right". So ... yeah. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 02:48, 28 September 2026 (UTC)

where is the my articles section

where is the my articles section G236 (talk) 00:57, 28 September 2026 (UTC)

@G236: You will probably want to look at your watchlist. Articles and other pages you edit go onto your watchlist by default (you can change these settings in Preferences → Watchlist). —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 01:06, 28 September 2026 (UTC)

Need help creating disambiguation page

I think I used the templates wrong. Could anybody help me out?

VoteSafe
VoteSafe (disambiguation)

I think I got the order the wrong way around? Though I am not entirely sure. I want to add {{distinguish|...}} on both America PAC and Tom Ridge. I was thinking of, instead of doing so inline, creating sub headings titled VoteSafe and VoteSafe.org, for the already existing paragraphs on both pages. Ybllaw (talk) 09:30, 28 September 2026 (UTC)

Thanks for the help thus far. I also went ahead and created the sections (using the other uses template instead of the distinguish) at both pages' VoteSafe paragraphs. I have not yet updated the disambiguation page to refer to these new sections directly, as I don't know if the edit will be approved and thus persist. Ybllaw (talk) 10:24, 28 September 2026 (UTC)

As there was no reverting thus far, I've also updated the links now. Ybllaw (talk) 10:35, 28 September 2026 (UTC)

Jacques Fath / Maison Jacques Fath : transparency

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Hello,

I am reaching out for guidance regarding the existing Wikipedia page about Jacques Fath the couturier, but also about the possible creation of a separate page dedicated to Maison Jacques Fath.

For transparency, I currently work with the company developing Maison Jacques Fath. Before making any edits or creating a new page, I would like to make sure that I follow Wikipedia’s rules correctly, particularly regarding conflicts of interest and neutrality.

I have a few questions:

1. Official website : A link to the official Jacques Fath website appears to have been removed from the existing Jacques Fath page. I would like to understand why and under what circumstances an official website may be included.

1. Images : Some photographs related to Jacques Fath were also removed in the past. How can I find the exact reasons for their removal, and what would be required to properly use photographs from the Maison’s archives?

1. Maison Jacques Fath page : We are considering creating a separate page about Maison Jacques Fath as a fashion house. How can we determine whether it meets Wikipedia’s notability requirements, and would it be preferable to prepare a draft for review first before posting it ?

Finally, given my professional connection to Maison Jacques Fath, I would appreciate guidance on the most transparent and appropriate way for me to contribute. My intention is to fully respect Wikipedia’s rules regarding neutrality, independent sources and conflicts of interest.

Thank you very much for your guidance.

Yulia

Yulia Pod (talk) 10:15, 28 September 2026 (UTC)

Titles without Wikipedia page on lists.

Previous discussion: WP:HD#Standards and guidelines for video game lists

Are videogames that have no Wikipedia page allowed on lists? The pages List of ZX Spectrum games and List of Atari 8-bit computer games are full of them. If they don't have their own article it often means they're not relevant enough to be on Wikipedia. But if that's the case, should they even be on lists? AngelSparkles (talk) 19:15, 28 September 2026 (UTC)

Per WP:LISTV, while I'm okay with a game that at least has a bluelink, I think redlinked games need to be supported by sources. DonIago (talk) 19:21, 28 September 2026 (UTC)

If "ZX Spectrum" has no article, then "List of ZX Spectrum Games" is definitely not allowed to exist at all. But if ZX Spectrum has an article, and there is reliable-sources proof that they really made Games A, B, and C, there is no literal rule saying that Game B must have an article to get on the list. But it's very often better to all agree to act as if that rule did exist, to avoid lists that are stupid.

However, even if everyone knows they also made Game D, Game D is absolutely not allowed on the list unless we have reliable-sources proof that it's by them. TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 19:55, 28 September 2026 (UTC)

I'll just note here, just for unneeded posterity, that the ZX Spectrum was a console that was really popular in the UK about 40 years ago. And the article is a WP:GA! It would definitely be nice to improve the sourcing on the list. CoffeeCrumbs (talk) 03:46, 29 September 2026 (UTC)

(About my "avoiding lists that are stupid": it depends what kind of list it is. Some lists are not very long even if you do include all, so then you can.) TooManyFingers (he/him · talk) 20:10, 28 September 2026 (UTC)

In my opinion, those lists could very well be removed, because Wikipedia also has the category lists. Category:ZX Spectrum games. All games are already in there and that page isn't cluttered with red links and wrong info. It looks much cleaner. Why have 2 lists with the same purpose. AngelSparkles (talk) 18:38, 29 September 2026 (UTC)

as mentioned above, WP:LISTV has this guidance:

"Reliable sources applies equally to a list of like things as it does for the content article on each individual thing listed.".

Everything on the list page should have a citation - regardless of whether there is an individual page or not - anything unsourced can be removed. Stooob (talk) 12:39, 30 September 2026 (UTC)

Howard Keel

You did not write about his movie in 1962 “The Unsinkable Molly Brown” with Debbie Reynolds! It was a fantastic movie. This was a great movie featuring Mr. Keel’s singing and the great Debbie Reynolds. This was not included in his bio! ~2026-52204-86 (talk) 20:02, 28 September 2026 (UTC)

Hi ~2026-52204-86 we have an article The Unsinkable Molly Brown (film) - but that does not mention Howard Keel at all. If you think we have missed something, please provide a reference from a WP:Reliable source about his role in the movie. - Arjayay (talk) 20:07, 28 September 2026 (UTC)

The Unsinkable Molly Brown (film) was released in 1964, not 1962, and there is no indication in that article that Howard Keel appeared in it.

It was based on The Unsinkable Molly Brown (musical) of 1960. Again, Howard Keel did not appear in that initial production. He did appear in a touring stage production of the musical in 1971 and 1973.

You may have mistaken the movie's actual lead actor Harve Presnell for Howard Keel: they are not unalike. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} ~2026-41275-62 (talk) 20:16, 28 September 2026 (UTC)

Howard Keel#Stage work says The Unsinkable Molly Brown (1971–1972; 1973). There is no sign he was in the film. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:28, 28 September 2026 (UTC)

How to make repetitive edits

Are there any scripts or tools that allow me to make repetitive edits (especially to wikitables) without using AI? Before being warned, I admittedly used AI to reshuffle wikitables [1]. I don't want to use AI anymore but is it there any non-AI gadget that allows me to save time dealing with tables? Wikipediæ philosophia (talk) 22:17, 28 September 2026 (UTC)

@Wikipediæ philosophia: there is a help page, Help:Table, which lists tools in its external links section. You could try asking on the talk page there. I have found importing a table from Excel useful.

Page watchers, the warning is at User talk:Wikipediæ philosophia#September 2026. TSventon (talk) 12:59, 30 September 2026 (UTC)

SensCritique

need to change 2700 occurrences of SensCritique and senscritique.com to SensCritique

see:

• https://www.senscritique.com/
• {{ill|SensCritique|fr|SensCritique}}

need bot or script

Xo4v (talk) 22:40, 28 September 2026 (UTC)

Please see Wikipedia:Bot requests. -- Hoary (talk)^WWU 👍︎ 02:38, 29 September 2026 (UTC)

Date of birth and AutoWikiBot

At Talk:Cathy Dennis#Date of birth and other claims there was consensus to remove the birth date per Cathy's request and WP:DOB. I thought the year should have been kept, but the editors working the page decided to nuke the whole thing.

The problem is that anyone using autowikibot will see a suggestion to add Category:Year of birth missing (living people). What is the best way to let autowikibot users know that this isn't a case of someone forgetting to add a DOB? Will they see a HTML comment?

Alternatively, should I just push harder to have the year listed? Cathy seemed to be concerned about her birthday being published, not her age. --Guy Macon (talk) 03:10, 29 September 2026 (UTC)

If the consensus was to remove everything including the year, then perhaps pushing hard to get it re-added might not be a good idea because the others involved might start wrongly accusing you of WP:IDHT. If the consensus was unclear on the year, however, then seeking further clarification should be OK. As for the autowikibot stuff, perhaps Wikipedia talk:AutoWikiBrowser (I think that's the same thing) would be the place query about that. Someone had to have created the bot and someone has to be monitoring it, Maybe "Request a feature" is the place to suggest such a change if needed; it's possible noone anticipated such an issue. Other than that, you could try leaving WP:HIDDEN notes in the text (near anywhere Dennis's DOB might be added and at the top of the categories section) asking those wanting to do so to check the article's talk page first. You might also want to suggest somehow fixing that discussion on the article's talk page so that it doesn't get archived (if the page is set up to archive). I'm not sure of the technical side of doing such a thing, but it would be helpful for the relevant discussion to always be on the article's talk page if you're going to make reference to in hidden notes. -- Marchjuly (talk) 06:24, 29 September 2026 (UTC)

How do I create a map?

Hi, I'm just wondering how I create a map with pinpoints of different locations, for example the places someone who is missing was last seen. I've created some pages where I would like to add maps, but I'm not really sure how to do it. Thank you. ItsShandog (talk) 07:42, 29 September 2026 (UTC)

Less than a week ago, ItsShandog, I could have written the same message (aside from the bit about the last sightings of the missing). Essential reading: WP:WikiProject Maps. You might use Template:Location map many. (The "many" in the name is to suggest the possibility of many markers, but the template works well for a single marker, and of course allowing many markers lets you add "workplace", "body found" or whatever.) You may well go dizzy when first trying to make sense of map construction. Certainly I did. But I took a break, resolving to return to the matter when wider awake. That worked. Best of luck with your cartographical adventures, -- Hoary (talk)^WWU 👍︎ 09:42, 29 September 2026 (UTC)

Thank you for the help. ItsShandog (talk) 09:48, 29 September 2026 (UTC)

Template:OSM Location map may be preferable. Darrelljon (talk) 16:18, 29 September 2026 (UTC)

About a

How to download wikipedia aap,I can't download on my device,because its showing this aap is not compitable with your device,what should i do ~2026-52307-12 (talk) 10:19, 29 September 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-52307-12: What is your device including version number or similar, and where are you trying to download the app? It's very limited what the app adds over the normal browser interface and it omits other things. You can do fine without it. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:27, 29 September 2026 (UTC)

What is a 6 20 621962 W.cronkite earliest 15 minute broadcast worth

did cbs copy rite june 20 1962 broadcast in 1990 ~2026-52381-54 (talk) 13:02, 29 September 2026 (UTC)

This is not a general help desk, sorry 331dot (talk) 13:14, 29 September 2026 (UTC)

Contribute button not highlighted

Tried incognito window, same behaviour.

I'd like to write an article about Bot Colony _Redux. Bot Colony, which had an article in Wikipedia for many years and was retired yesterday from Steam.

Bot Colony _Redux https://store.steampowered.com/app/3613080/Bot_Colony__redux/ the successor game, should be released on October 30, 2026.

As I haven't posted a lot on Wikipedia, I could use help from an editor (not sure how Wikipedia responds to these inquiries, can you kindly reply? I'll check my profile and make sure the email address is operational ).

The Bot Colony _Redux article should point to the Bot Colony article. Bot Colony _Redux is a newly developed game intended to succeed/replace Bot Colony. The article should cover the development history, impact of the emergence of Generative-AI, differences from the original Bot Colony, new content (Riot episode, a Tutorial), support for 16 languages.

Sensebased (talk) 14:10, 29 September 2026 (UTC)

@Sensebased: I guess your heading refers to the text "Contribute" in a menu. It's a heading for the following links and never a link itself. It has misled others and I pointed out the poor design in phab:T419124: "Sidebar section headings in Vector 2022 are not visually distinguishable enough from disabled links". You are certainly allowed to contribute. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:22, 29 September 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @Sensebased as a relatively inexperienced editor is like saying "I want to learn to be a builder. I'm going to start by building a house".

My earnest advice to new editors is to not even think about trying to create an article until you have spent several weeks - at least - learning about how Wikipedia works by making improvements to existing articles. Once you have understood core policies such as verifiability, neutral point of view, reliable, independent sources, and notability, and experienced how we handle disagreements with other editors (the Bold, Revert, Discuss cycle), then you might be ready to read your first article carefully, and try creating a draft. If you don't follow this advice but try to create an article without this preparation, you are likely to have a frustrating and disappointing experience with Wikipedia. ColinFine (talk) 20:49, 29 September 2026 (UTC)

(I know your account has been there since 2015, but with only 72 edits in your history, you are still a new editor) --ColinFine (talk) 20:51, 29 September 2026 (UTC)

New article created despite an existing draft

I created Draft:Daktar Kaku on 27 September. Today, when I was about to move it to mainspace, I noticed that another editor had directly created Daktar Kaku on 28 September. Daktar Kaku is poorly developed, poorly formatted and has limited sourcing. Whereas Draft:Daktar Kaku is substantially developed, well sourced and well formatted.

When a draft already exists, editors are generally encouraged to work on the existing draft rather than create a separate article. In this case, the mainspace article was created after my draft. I came to know about it only when I was preparing to move my completed draft to mainspace.

What would be the appropriate way to proceed here? Should the existing article be replaced by the draft....or is there another procedure I should follow? BhikhariInformer‬ 📮 ^{(Ping me or else I won't see it)} 15:03, 29 September 2026 (UTC)

I would first attempt to discuss the situation with the creator of the article and try to collaborate. 331dot (talk) 15:12, 29 September 2026 (UTC)

2027–28 United States Television Schedule

Can you please create a draft for the 2027-28 United States Television Schedule please. ~2026-52401-64 (talk) 15:07, 29 September 2026 (UTC)

This isn't the place to request an article, that's requested articles(which admittedly is severely backlogged). Also see WP:CRYSTAL. 331dot (talk) 15:10, 29 September 2026 (UTC)

Draft:2027 NFL season

Can You Please Fix The errors I Made On the draft 2027 NFL season page please. ~2026-52401-64 (talk) 15:45, 29 September 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @~2026-52401-64.

The way to fix the errors you made is to cite the actual sources you are citing. Since you haven't done so, we don't know where the citations are supposed to point to.

Creating an article without first finding the reliable, independent, substantial secondary sources that are required (see WP:42) is like starting to build a house without surveying the plot to make sure it's suitable to build on, or checking that local laws allow you to build there: there is a very good chance that you are totally wasting your time.

Please see your first article. ColinFine (talk) 20:57, 29 September 2026 (UTC)

Corrections and Additions for my wikipedia page named as G V N Raju

I am GVN Raju, How to correct my date of birth, it was showing as 28th March 1964 and 26th March 1964. it should be corrected as 28th March 1963 as per my aadhar card. I also want to bring to your notice some of recent year achievements (with all press clipping proofs ) needs to be uploaded. please guide to whom I need to share.

GVNRAJU1963 (talk) 16:06, 29 September 2026 (UTC)

 Courtesy link: G. V. N. Raju --Finngall ^talk 16:32, 29 September 2026 (UTC)

In re the DoB, I'm removing it wholesale as unsourced. (No, we cannot use government IDs as sources for that.) —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{Look out it's Jimothy!} 16:33, 29 September 2026 (UTC)

I'm also going to BHFH the sources:

Bastard Helper From Hell source assessment

• We can't use https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRCtroe4Qrg (unknown provenance) and even if we could, it wouldn't help for eligibility (connexion to subject).
• https://web.archive.org/web/20170226141359/http://gvnraju.com/media1.html doesn't help for eligibility (too sparse). The article may as well be written by Raju for how much it actually reports on him instead of his speech.
• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxGcidQU-A8 doesn't help for eligibility (connexion to subject). News segment where he is interviewed.
• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OW-l3XkSZ9A doesn't help for eligibility (connexion to subject). News segment where he is interviewed.
• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AitUE53mzUs doesn't help for eligibility (connexion to subject). News segment where he is interviewed.
• Kinige.com is 404-compliant (redirects to browser's generic "server not found" page).
• https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/karnataka/a-revealing-and-refreshing-counselling-session-for-students-taking-up-higher-education/article8043780.ece doesn't help for eligibility (SIGCOV|too sparse). Just like the last The Hindu article, the article merely paraphrases his speech without saying much of anything about Raju.
• https://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-features/tp-educationplus/hbs-gets-national-excellence-award/article8265113.ece has been discussed and dismissed. The relevant part of this piece was already covered in the archived The Hindu source.
• https://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp-features/tp-educationplus/oral-communication-is-a-mandatory-skill/article7340306.ece doesn't help for eligibility (too sparse). Once again, paraphrasing the speech instead of discussing Raju.
• http://gvnraju.com/media2.html is 404-compliant (presents a bare-bones 404 page). Even if it weren't, neither it or anything on that domain would help for eligibility (connexion to subject).
• https://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Visakhapatnam/summer-camp-focuses-on-skill-development/article8635387.ece doesn't help for eligibility (too sparse). One sentence, and it's again paraphrasing him rather than discussing him.
• https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/karnataka/infatuation-with-safe-jobs-is-why-country-lacks-entrepreneurs/article6900166.ece doesn't help for eligibility (too sparse). Stop me if you've heard this one: A source that paraphrases a speech GVN Raju made in lieu of actually discussing him.
• We can't use Amazon (online storefront. The book itself wouldn't help a whit for eligibility (connexion to subject).

None of your sources are any good, full stop and end of. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{Look out it's Jimothy!} 16:51, 29 September 2026 (UTC)

First edit

I don't know why my addition to an article doesn't appear. It was my first time and I guess I could be missing a step. FutanariReiwa (talk) 20:11, 29 September 2026 (UTC)

Hi @FutanariReiwa. I don't see any contributions from you. Did you press the Publish changes button to publish your edit? qcne (talk) 20:18, 29 September 2026 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. Maybe I didn't. Is it possible that my contribution was saved somehow? FutanariReiwa (talk) 20:23, 29 September 2026 (UTC)

If you did not hit that button, then it was not saved. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{Look out it's Jimothy!} 20:38, 29 September 2026 (UTC)

Thank you for your help. I just made the edit successfully! FutanariReiwa (talk) 20:50, 29 September 2026 (UTC)

Download wiki ap,samsung phone, without google

without Google how to download wiki ap directly? ~2026-52395-61 (talk) 20:54, 29 September 2026 (UTC)

I'm not quite sure I'm understanding your question, but the Wikipedia app is available from open source app repositories like F-Droid, as well as the Samsung Galaxy Store. See List of Wikipedia mobile apps#Wikimedia Foundation, mw:Wikimedia Apps, and meta:Wikimedia Apps for more distribution locations and information. — PeterCooperJr (talk) 02:34, 30 September 2026 (UTC)

@~2026-52395-61: I'm also unsure what you mean. If you mean without the Google Chrome browser then your phone probably has Google Play Store to download apps. See https://support.google.com/googleplay/answer/190860?hl=en. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:57, 30 September 2026 (UTC)

Species listing

Hello, I recently made the draft Dissomphalus, which is a genus of flat wasps. Do I need to list all of the species? Versions111 (talk • contribs) 08:38, 30 September 2026 (UTC)

Hello, @Versions111. I don't know the answer, but you might find it in WP:WikiProject Tree of Life/Taxon template. ColinFine (talk) 09:05, 30 September 2026 (UTC)

You may either list them, or say, "there are 42 species" (or however many there are). If there are hundreds, it would be better to list them (if at all) on a separate "list of species in the genus Dissomphalus" page. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits; 12:58, 30 September 2026 (UTC)

Commons category

Is {{Commons category}} an external link and has to be placed below ==External links== in a wiki page..?
--~2026-52848-82 (talk) 12:20, 30 September 2026 (UTC)

Per the template documentation, this template should be placed at the top of the last section on the page, which is sometimes but not always ==External links==. Certes (talk) 12:39, 30 September 2026 (UTC)

Correction of existing page + creating a new one

Hello there !

I have a few questions about an existing page, as well as a page I would like to create. I don't know where I can ask them because I am relatively new here, so I would be happy to have any kind of help and information that you have for me.

First of all, I want to be very transparent about my connection to the subjects I am asking about. I currently work for the company developing Maison Jacques Fath. Before editing anything, I would like to make sure that I follow Wikipedia’s rules about conflicts of interest and neutrality.

My questions are :

1. The link to the official website Jacques Fath was removed from the Jacques Fath page. Could you please explain why ? And what are the conditions for adding it there ?
2. Some photos related to Jacques Fath were also removed from the Jacques Fath page. I would like to know the reason for this removal and maybe a correct way to use some photos from the Jacques Fath’s archives ?
3. The last question is about creation of a separate Wikipedia page for Maison Jacques Fath as a fashion house. My team and I have a large historical documentation about Maison Jacques Fath. Clearly we will follow Wikipedia’s rules about neutrality and about the encyclopedic character of the information that is posted here. Keeping that in mind, do we need to know anything else about creating a page on Wikipedia ? Is it better to create a draft for a review for the Wikipedia users of Wikipedia admins before really posting it and reviewing it then ?

Once again, given my professional connection to Maison Jacques Fath, I want to do things right and to be transparent from the beginning due to the respect for the rules. Yulia Pod (talk) 12:35, 30 September 2026 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure has most of the relevant information for editors in your position. I don't know why the official link and images were removed, but WP:ELOFFICIAL and Wikipedia:Image use policy may be useful. It may be that the images are copyrighted or not clearly identified as having a licence allowing their reuse in Wikipedia, but that's just a guess. Certes (talk) 12:48, 30 September 2026 (UTC)

Hello @Yulia Pod.

As part of the collaborative nature of editing Wikipedia, when somebody makes an edit that you don't like or disagree with, your first step is almost always to open a discussion with that editor, usually on the article's talk page (see WP:BRD). This is also more likely to get you the answer than asking a random collection of editors why another editor did something.

But you may also get part of the answer from looking at Special:History/Jacques Fath . I suspect that the edit on 2026-06-17T01:25:18 by a bot called "CommonsDelinker" is part of the answer, given that the edit summary was

Removing French_couturier_Jacques_Fath_in_Paris,_c._1940s.jpg; it has been deleted from Commons by Krd because: No permission since 9 June 2026.

As for creating a new article, I suggest you start by reading WP:PAIDADVICE.

My earnest advice to new editors is to not even think about trying to create an article until you have spent several weeks - at least - learning about how Wikipedia works by making improvements to existing articles. Once you have understood core policies such as verifiability, neutral point of view, reliable, independent sources, and notability, and experienced how we handle disagreements with other editors (the Bold, Revert, Discuss cycle), then you might be ready to read your first article carefully, and try creating a draft. If you don't follow this advice but try to create an article without this preparation, you are likely to have a frustrating and disappointing experience with Wikipedia. And that is even without the added complication of a conflict of interest. ColinFine (talk) 13:16, 30 September 2026 (UTC)

How do you care for orchids.

magnification ~2026-52573-71 (talk) 23:14, 30 September 2026 (UTC)

This page is only for questions about using Wikipedia, not for general knowledge questions. Furthermore Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, not a guidebook. You will have to ask for advice elsewhere. AndyTheGrump (talk) 23:16, 30 September 2026 (UTC)

User:Melissasrojas29 bad conduct

I was trying to help this user with their banned account, but instead used profane responces. Take a look at https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AMelissasrojas29&diff=1377783308. They said how the [] are you helping me?

With concern,

Bennett Li11 (talk) 03:13, 1 October 2026 (UTC)