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CSS selectors for language's normal writing system but not IPA
[edit]I don't know how I hadn't noticed this yet in more than a year, but the -Latn-fonipa-suffixed lang attribute in this template is causing me problems when I've applied a CSS rule to language-tagged text. I get Hebrew-script-appropriate fonts applied to a Hebrew IPA transcription in Gal Gadot because I use the selector :lang(he) in my personal stylesheet that captures lang="he-Latn-fonipa as well as lang="he". :lang(he-Hebr) doesn't capture lang="he-Latn-fonipa, but it also doesn't capture lang="he". I guess :lang(he):not(:lang(he-Latn)) or :lang("*-Latn") { /* set font-family and other styles to default here */ } might work, but I don't have the time to try right now. Any other solutions to avoid selecting IPA text when trying to style a language's normal writing system? — Eru·tuon 10:51, 9 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Erutuon:
:lang(he):not(:lang(\*-Latn)). Hope I'm not too late! Nardog (talk) 15:11, 25 November 2025 (UTC)- Yeah, that works. Firefox automatically converts
:lang("*-Latn")to:lang(\*-Latn). — Eru·tuon 16:30, 25 November 2025 (UTC)
- Yeah, that works. Firefox automatically converts
RfC: add option to disable link to IPA help page?
[edit]This template, {{IPA}}, currently does not have an option to disable links to relevant IPA help pages. For example, {{IPA|fr|asdf|}} → [asdf]. The link goes to Help:IPA/French and the link cannot be disabled. Should there be an option to disable such links?
For context, see this thread above. grapesurgeon (seefooddiet) (talk) 21:34, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Nardog: Pinging other party to orig convo just in case. grapesurgeon (seefooddiet) (talk) 21:43, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- Effectively, the way to disable the link is just don't specify the language:
{{IPA|[asdf]}}→ [asdf]. You do have to add square brackets though. This is called basic mode. Nardog already mentioned this in the linked thread:
— W.andrea (talk) 22:26, 4 July 2025 (UTC)Sounds like what you're looking for is the basic mode. See the first section of the documentation.
- I tried doing that for Korean text after Nardog said that, and Nardog undid it and said that the template lang label does more than just produce the label grapesurgeon (seefooddiet) (talk) 00:07, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- I think Nardog was saying that instead you should remove the IPA link from the infobox itself ({{Infobox Korean name/auto}} in {{Infobox officeholder}}). Personally, I'd change it from Help:IPA/Korean to International Phonetic Alphabet and clarify the docs to say to always use {{IPA|ko|transcription}}. That said, I'm not very familiar with infobox templates. — W.andrea (talk) 00:44, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- Right, I saw that suggestion. My concern is not necessarily directly tied to that infobox, it's a general concern.
- And either way, por que no los dos? We can both add an option and do this to the infobox (although I disagree that the infobox change you proposed is that necessary) grapesurgeon (seefooddiet) (talk) 01:23, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
Because you can just use basic mode. There's no need to make the template more complicated. — W.andrea (talk) 01:59, 5 July 2025 (UTC)por que no los dos?
- @Nardog do you have fuller explanation for what specifying lang tag does above basic mode? grapesurgeon (seefooddiet) (talk) 02:17, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- It adds a language-specific category and generates the label from a list of predefined options, among other things. It's all in the documentation. Nardog (talk) 12:06, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Nardog do you have fuller explanation for what specifying lang tag does above basic mode? grapesurgeon (seefooddiet) (talk) 02:17, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- I think Nardog was saying that instead you should remove the IPA link from the infobox itself ({{Infobox Korean name/auto}} in {{Infobox officeholder}}). Personally, I'd change it from Help:IPA/Korean to International Phonetic Alphabet and clarify the docs to say to always use {{IPA|ko|transcription}}. That said, I'm not very familiar with infobox templates. — W.andrea (talk) 00:44, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- I tried doing that for Korean text after Nardog said that, and Nardog undid it and said that the template lang label does more than just produce the label grapesurgeon (seefooddiet) (talk) 00:07, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose. The linking is required by MOS:PRON so it's not up to a template talk to decide. But even if that was overturned and DUPLINK was to be applied to transcriptions, it is difficult to see it would be administered correctly as transcriptions are added, removed, or moved around. Nardog (talk) 12:04, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
Bug on mobile
[edit]See the first note here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luiz_In%C3%A1cio_Lula_da_Silva, on mobile. We can't see the 🔈 symbol. ~2025-37360-60 (talk) 01:30, 7 December 2025 (UTC)
Phonemic vs. phonetic transcription
[edit]I'm not sure I did the right thing. I've made this edit but I was forced to switch form a phonemic transcription to a phonetic one, since there's no way to link to IPA for German with slashes.-- Carnby (talk) 17:07, 20 April 2026 (UTC)
- The key is phonetic, not phonemic, so you of course were. Nardog (talk) 04:10, 29 April 2026 (UTC)