Talk:Yogurt
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[edit]Yogurt/yoghurt could be mentioned in the summary at top of page?? 109.78.74.143 (talk) 10:40, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
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Grammar issues in History section:
Suggest change "Francis I suffered from a severe diarrhea which no French doctor could cure." to "Francis I suffered severe diarrhea that no French doctor could cure." or "suffered a bout of severe diarrhea".
Also no citation for "The grateful king told many of the food that had cured him." This sentence also possibly not appropriate for a wiki, maybe should be "according to the account" or something like that? Up to you. Nanizet (talk) 00:12, 20 June 2025 (UTC)
Partly done: I removed the entire paragraph, as the only sources cited were an encyclopedia (a tertiary source) and a cookbook; not the kind of reliable scholarly sources we'd need for historical accounts like this. Day Creature (talk) 05:56, 20 June 2025 (UTC)
"Yogut" listed at Redirects for discussion
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The redirect Yogut has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2026 April 11 § Yogut until a consensus is reached. I am bad at usernames (talk · contribs) 05:36, 11 April 2026 (UTC)
Potentially ambiguous phrasing in "Health research" section
[edit]The comma in the following sentence (from the second paragraph of the "Health research" section):
Yogurt consumption has been associated with reduced risk of cardiovascular disease, and insulin resistance.
could be understood to mean that yogurt consumption is (1) associated with reduced risk of cardiovascular disease, and (2) associated with insulin resistance. I assume (?) that yogurt is associated with reduced risk of insulin resistance--although I don't have access to the cited article to verify. If indeed that's the case, something like this may be more clear:
Yogurt consumption has been associated with reduced risk of both cardiovascular disease and insulin resistance.
If yogurt consumption is actually associated with increased insulin resistance, the following may be less ambiguous:
Yogurt consumption has been associated with reduced risk of cardiovascular disease, but increased risk of insulin resistance. ~2026-42380-95 (talk) 00:25, 30 July 2026 (UTC)
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[edit]Zefr hello. I do not know if you are aware that I cited these new sources to cite an entirely new sentence. I am saying this because, in my talk page, you wrote that: "The etymology and names are sufficiently sourced". In addition, WP:OVERCITE is a non-binding essay which is also completely irrelevant. You can see that the my citations were very tidy, all organized in one singular footnote, without any clutter and without "violating" (I can't violate an essay either way) WP:OVERCITE. Your reverts perplex me. Trabzonluyuz-rumuz-elhamdulillah (talk) 01:01, 27 September 2026 (UTC)
- Those references are unsuitable for the English encyclopedia, WP:ESTABLISHED, and are far too excessive in number (WP:CITECLUTTER) for a term definable by a simple etymology, which was accomplished with Special:Diff/1376942686. Zefr (talk) 02:34, 27 September 2026 (UTC)
- I don't mind trimming, but the Sogdian etymology must stay. There is no reason for it not to. How about?: Trabzonluyuz-rumuz-elhamdulillah (talk) 02:53, 27 September 2026 (UTC)
"The word, yogurt (also yoghurt with variations), is derived from Ottoman Turkish for yugurt or yoğurt,[1][2] having its root yog meaning "to condense" as related to yogur (to "knead");[1] it is a loanword from the Eastern Iranian (Sogdian) word juġrāt/jaghurat.[3] It was first used in English in 1625.[1][2]
References
- 1 2 3 "Yogurt". Online Etymology Dictionary. 2026. Retrieved 27 September 2026.
- 1 2 "Yogurt". Merriam-Webster Dictionary. 2026. Retrieved 27 September 2026.
- ↑ Batmanglij, Najmieh (2011). Food of Life: Ancient Persian and Modern Iranian Cooking and Ceremonies (4th ed.). Washington, D.C.: Mage Publishers. p. 1. ISBN 978-1-933823-47-8.
A Persian cookbook isn't a WP:RS source for etymology. We can wait a while to see what other editors have to say. Zefr (talk) 03:26, 27 September 2026 (UTC)
- I provided many sources originally. I just picked one of them, any other will do. For example: Dehkhoda, Ali-Akbar. "یغورت" [Yoğurt]. لغتنامه دهخدا (in Persian). Tehran: Tehran University Press. Retrieved 27 September 2026.
- Ali-Akbar Dehkhoda is a linguist. Trabzonluyuz-rumuz-elhamdulillah (talk) 17:28, 27 September 2026 (UTC)