Talk:Windows Media Player (2022)

Requested move 13 March 2023

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The result of the move request was: Moved to Windows Media Player (2022). Per WP:BARTENDER. (closed by non-admin page mover) ■ ∃ Madeline ⇔ ∃ Part of me ; 08:15, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

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Media Player (Windows 11) → ? – This software has now been launched on Windows 10. Does this article need to be renamed, because this software is no longer exclusive to Windows 11. 2401:E180:8830:FA27:6B63:7DDC:16D2:F29F (talk) 10:44, 13 March 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. — Shibbolethink ^{(♔ ♕)} 13:26, 20 March 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. {{ping|ClydeFranklin}} (t/c) 18:04, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

Relisting comment: to generate a more thorough consensus — Shibbolethink ^{(♔ ♕)} 13:26, 20 March 2023 (UTC)

Note: WikiProject Software has been notified of this discussion. — Shibbolethink ^{(♔ ♕)} 13:27, 20 March 2023 (UTC)

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• Comment we could use the type of application binary package (executable type) the thing uses... -- 65.92.244.249 (talk) 07:11, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

  Can you give me an example (?

  what can i change its name to 2401:E180:8863:947E:4E8E:4A7A:2AFF:2690 (talk) 16:58, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

It appears to be using WinUI/UWP which is definitely not what the pre-Metro WMP used. -- 65.92.244.249 (talk) 03:03, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

I agree to rename it to Media Player (UWP), but I can't confirm whether it is a real UWP application, but it does look like a UWP application. 61.216.108.177 (talk) 03:11, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

I don't know if this example is appropriate. I think this new Media Player is a bit like Paint 3D, but Microsoft didn't give the new Media Player a better distinguishing name. 61.216.108.177 (talk) 03:23, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

I am not sure if the proposed disambiguation terms are recognisable for the average readers to know which Media Player that they are reading about. – robertsky (talk) 03:29, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

good question 2401:E180:8850:2BC2:7733:9AB1:22B9:96DC (talk) 04:17, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

Yeah, I have the same concern; I don't think we really have precedent for distinguishing between articles on Win32 and UWP programs that have similar names. Other programs with Win32 and UWP versions (such as DVD Player (Windows) and Windows Calculator) have one article for both versions due to lack of content; however, the article for the original WMP is already long, and I think combining the two WMP articles would be awkward as I figure most readers would be familiar with the original version rather than the UWP version. CascadeUrbanite (talk) 04:40, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

At least for now, most users mostly mention Media Player (Windows) is referring to the Win32 version rather than the new UWP version. 61.216.108.177 (talk) 05:37, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

I don't recommend merging the articles on both sides. At present, Microsoft is also separating the two versions instead of directly replacing the old version (Win32) with the new version (UWP)

Unless Microsoft really replaces the old version (Win32) with the new version (UWP) before considering whether to merge the articles on both sides 61.216.108.177 (talk) 05:42, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

I just read how the German version is written. They directly named the Win32 version of Media Player as Windows Media Player Legacy 2401:E180:8801:DEEB:CE80:2930:61A:13CF (talk) 09:46, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

"Legacy" is somewhat ambiguous, considering that the original WMP likely has a strong case for holding status as a primary topic among readers. CascadeUrbanite (talk) 23:54, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

yeah... but that's the new name, even not really reported, of the older player now (at least on Windows 11. not sure about Windows 10). – robertsky (talk) 04:11, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

Yes and the renaming is only for Win11 (I'm not sure about Win10) so it shouldn't be used like this. 2401:E180:8833:84C:8208:7F90:39C9:F4F (talk) 05:04, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

There's a case to be made for splitting the old Media Player article in two, from when it switched from the "Media Player Classic" interface to the shiny new one when the icon changed, then the base article would be an overview, with the Win16-32, Win32-64, and UWP eras as subarticles -- 65.92.244.249 (talk) 03:54, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

I don't think old Windows Media Player (including before version 6.4) doesn't need to split.

Just split the new UWP version 2401:E180:8830:84AA:6091:D90A:5B35:AA58 (talk) 04:30, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

Yes, but I don't think it should be used that way. 2401:E180:8833:84C:8208:7F90:39C9:F4F (talk) 05:03, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

• Perhaps something like Media Player (Windows 10–present)? {{ping|ClydeFranklin}} (t/c) 06:09, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
• Support Media Player (Windows 10–present) as proposed by ClydeFranklin. The original chain of discussion doesn't seem to have resulted in any promising potential titles, while the existing article title has the scope issues laid out in the nomination. Thus, the (Windows 10–present) disambiguator seems like the best solution. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 15:23, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

  I actually think“ present” feels a bit weird.

  But I don't have any good ideas. I originally thought of Media Player (Windows 10/11) although I also think Media Player (UWP) can also 2401:E180:8884:53C3:2C0E:743B:5D8C:4355 (talk) 16:04, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

• We could also consider Windows Media Player (2022) (since "Windows Media Player" is its Microsoft Store name). Though if this fails to gather consensus, I'm fine with ClydeFranklin's suggestion. DFlhb (talk) 19:32, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

  This title works for me as well! The release-year disambiguator seems like a useful option, since there's no telling whether the software will continue to be renewed in new OS versions. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 20:55, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

  I can get behind this proposal. It feels more intuitive and is aligned with how we deal with disambiguating other topics, i.e. biographies by birth year (if the occupation dab isn't sufficient); albums, songs, TV series, films by year of release, etc. – robertsky (talk) 02:39, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

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New WMP should be distinguished by app type, not by year

The article is currently titled "Windows Media Player (2022)" where "2022" serves to distinguish the new WMP app from the legacy WMP app, but I think that's too vague of a distinction. The main difference between the two versions of WMP is that the new one is a Microsoft store (UWP) app, and as such it gets updated frequently so a year doesn't really mean much. Therefore I think it'd be more accurate to refer to the new WMP as "Windows Media Player (Microsoft Store app)" or "Windows Media Player (UWP app)". 136.27.11.233 (talk) 07:03, 3 December 2023 (UTC)

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Requested move 30 November 2025

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The result of the move request was: not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) HurricaneZeta^C 21:09, 7 December 2025 (UTC)

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Windows Media Player (2022) → Media PlayerMedia Player – Hello everyone. The current title is problematic for a number of reasons:

• The name of the software is simply "Media Player", including in all the menus and the about page. The ONLY place where the prefix "Windows" appears is outside in its Microsoft Store page and only in the title, simply for the purpose of indicating to users on the Store that it is Microsoft's own product. Otherwise read the rest of the page and there is never another mention of "Windows" as a prefix:
  • "Media Player is designed to make listening to and watching your multimedia content more enjoyable."
  • "We designed the new Media Player to make listening to and watching your multimedia content more enjoyable on Windows 11"
  • "Media Player replaces Groove Music"

And support articles on the Microsoft website also state simply "Media Player". Anything with the prefix refers to the legacy Windows Media Player, not this. Simply put, the product name with the "Windows" in front is not officially correct.

• "(2022)" is not an ideal way to distinguish a software product - to me the title sounds like it's a temporary product or an event from the year 2022 - but more importantly it is not exact anyway and misleading because technically Media Player was first publicly available in November 2021!

Therefore I think it should be renamed to the simple and accurate 'Media Player'. At the moment that article is a redirect to 'Media player' but because it is merely a capital P and there is no other article with the same exact whole word, it shouldn't be an issue I think.

References

~2025-37524-73 (talk) 19:42, 30 November 2025 (UTC)

• Comment: This is called Windows Media Player by Microsoft itself in its own app store. Company names are often prepended to product names for clarity and attribution. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 20:06, 30 November 2025 (UTC)

  I don't mean any offense but isn't that what I have already stated? You're right that that name is used for clarity but I explained it only occurs so in the title on their store and that's it. Otherwise everywhere else the official name is only Media Player. ~2025-37524-73 (talk) 20:34, 30 November 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose per WP:NATURAL. This was discussed in 2023; I don't see how anything has changed since then. Media Player is ambiguous and should continue redirecting to the dabpage. 162 etc. (talk) 02:10, 1 December 2025 (UTC)

Proposer here. Sorry but I am not convinced by that. Firstly, I read the WP:NATURAL and it does state:

However, do not use obscure or made-up names.

Right now, the brackets 2022 part is made-up, and while it is for disambiguation purposes, it is a very poor example IMO. The guideline in NATURAL also says Using an alternative name that the subject is also commonly called in English reliable sources. I'm afraid to say that "Windows Media Player 2022" or any other year mention is not a common name of this topic, neither in any reliable sources or colloquially in the community. As proven above I also said that it is technically not so accurate when it launched in 2021, making any year mention further confusing.

Secondly, I don't believe there is any ambiguity here. Don't forget this is Media Player, with a capital P, not a generic word like "media player". That is a very clear distinction already, on top of that this is the only article with the whole words "Media Player". The current article media player is a set index of other pages with extra words, not quote unquote "media player".

Even if you disagree with my point, at least think of some alternative because the current title with the year 2022 is simply not good enough. --~2025-37807-45 (talk) 20:23, 1 December 2025 (UTC)

Oppose: "Media Player" would be far too ambiguous and this page is certainly not the primary topic. Thanks, Glasspalace (talk | contribs) 02:32, 1 December 2025 (UTC)

Hello, as said in my counterpoint above, I don't believe at all that this is ambiguous, because there is no other article with the exact words "Media Player". The other pages are things like 'Media Player Classic' or 'Portable media player', but there is only one product of note that is exactly Media Player and that is this topic here. Also distinguish between Media Player with a capital P (denoting a product) and Media player (lowercase p) which is the set index for the other pages. That to me is enough distinction - and it would be very clear and obvious to a user typing 'media player' in the search bar, especially with the short description caption of this one clearly stating it is a Microsoft software for Windows 11/10.

There is a good similar example that already exists: Groove music is a redirect to Groove (music) (a genre of music) while Groove Music with capital M is the Microsoft product. I believe this sort of formula works perfectly and that it also will for Media Player. Thanks. --~2025-37807-45 (talk) 20:23, 1 December 2025 (UTC)

I looked at the 2024 discussion just now, where ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) mentioned this in favor of "Media Player": "WP:DIFFCAPS means that it can point to others in a hatnote.". That exactly mirrors the point I was trying to make, DIFFCAPS mentions iron maiden and Iron Maiden, the same thought process as media player and Media Player, clear and distinctive enough. --~2025-37807-45 (talk) 20:41, 1 December 2025 (UTC)

Even supposing that your point about WP:DIFFCAPS or WP:SMALLDETAILS is fair, the fact remains that there are a number of articles currently up that use "Media Player" as a reasonable COMMONNAME, such as Media Player Classic, this article, and, of course, the main Windows Media Player article. When multiple subjects have the same name, that name should lead to a disambiguation page unless there is a clear primary topic. In this case, if there even is a primary topic at all, it would certainly not be this article; if anything, I'd think it would be Windows Media Player, even if Media Player is not the official name for that product.

With that said, I do agree that the current article title is confusing and poorly disambiguated. I'd honestly support moving to Windows Media Player and moving that page to Windows Media Player Legacy under NATURAL if it falls in line with COMMONNAME as well. Thanks, Glasspalace (talk | contribs) 23:18, 1 December 2025 (UTC)

Upon consideration of pageviews and previous move discussions, I think leaving the page as is would be the best possible outcome, as this page is probably not the primary topic for "Windows Media Player". Thanks, Glasspalace (talk | contribs) 00:43, 2 December 2025 (UTC)

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Issue regarding year-based categorization in the new version of Media Player

Previous discussants have suggested that the new Media Player should not be categorized by year; I would like to propose that categorizing it by application type might be better than simply using the year. ~2026-49065-00 (talk) 20:52, 11 September 2026 (UTC)

Since the new version of Media Player is built using WinUI, I would like to propose changing the name from "2022" to "Windows App" or "WinUI App" to distinguish it from the legacy version, which was built using Win32. ~2026-49065-00 (talk) 20:53, 11 September 2026 (UTC)