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Latest comment: 16 hours ago by Emethigg in topic Requested move 3 August 2026
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Propose merging USAV Spearhead (TSV-X1) into this article along the lines of HSC Manannan which has both a civilian and military history. Both are about the same vessel with a fair amount of content forking. The individual service histories aren't long and complicated enough to require separate articles. Gymeinx (talk) 05:08, 3 October 2018 (UTC)Reply

  • Oppose - per the very reasons cited by the opposer. This vessel has both a military history and a civilian history, there is no need to conflate the two. Take for example the similar article, such as the MV Dublin Swift [aka Westpac Express (HSV-4676)] page, where documenting two different histories in a single article can lead to confusion. Even though the two pages in this proposal currently have limited content, we can see from the examples of similar vessels such as HSV-2 Swift and HSC Manannan that these articles can grow. Wikipedia is not made of paper, so we don't need to save room by needlessly condensing articles. There are other ships that have multiple articles documenting multiple histories, for example;

These are a few examples where merging was neither wanted or needed. Merging is not needed for no these pages as well. - wolf 06:55, 3 October 2018 (UTC)Reply

Merge: It's long-standing practice to merge the same ship with different careers into one page. The claim that this is rare doesn't stand up to scrutiny (having a quick search through the Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Ships archive). This article was discussed with a series of others at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Ships/Archive 58#IMO number conflicts where such merges are usually done uncontroversially. In this case, the only reason this wasn't recommended for a merge was Thewolfchild's objection. My view is that the material already overlaps, and there so little of it that it is best discussed in one place, with separate sections for the different careers. Klbrain (talk) 08:29, 13 October 2019 (UTC)Reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Requested move 3 August 2026

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HSC T&T SpiritT&T Spirit – Per WP:COMMONNAME and WP:NCSHIPS specifically: an article about a ship not known to have a prefix should use only the ship's name, if that name is unambiguous. Operator Trinidad & Tobago Inter Island Company describes without a prefix as do manufacturer Incat and MarineTraffic. Emethigg (talk) 22:46, 3 August 2026 (UTC)Reply