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A large number of these questions are relating to the term creation myth, its meaning and its proper usage in this article.

Creation myth is a formal and proper term used by a wide range of academics and scholars (religious and secular) to define a supernatural account of how life, Earth and everything in general came into existence. This term does not imply falsehood unlike the way that the informal use of the word myth can.
Wikipedia:WTA#Myth and Legend clearly states that myth in its informal sense should not be used but also clearly states that we should treat all faiths and beliefs the same (e.g. Not referring to a Christian belief on the one hand and a Hindu myth on the other). Thus all faiths' creation myths are referred to as such in their respective articles as well.
Wikipedia:RNPOV states "editors should not avoid using terminology that has been established by the majority of the current reliable and notable sources on a topic out of sympathy for a particular point of view, or concern that readers may confuse the formal and informal meanings." This is also the main thrust of WP:NOT#CENSORED.

Q1: What is the definition of creation myth?

A1: Creation myth is a widely accepted term that has a precise definition^[1]^[2]^[3]^[4]^[5] that is "a supernatural story or explanation that describes the beginnings of humanity, earth, life, and the universe (cosmogony), often as a deliberate act by one or more deities." Since there is a consensus among reliable sources on this definition, it is used here for the purpose of accuracy and proper word use.

Q2: Why do we use creation myth to describe the subject, even if it might offend readers or conflict with their beliefs?

A2: The term creation myth is used for reasons related to scholarship and research, not out of a desire to offend the feelings or beliefs of Wikipedia's readers. While some readers, especially those not familiar with the scholarly terminology referenced when using the term creation myth, might take offense at seeing this subject called a creation myth, Wikipedia should not be rewritten just so that certain readers will be more comfortable. The goal in writing the article is to be as neutral and dispassionate in describing this subject, but, as with any contentious topic, it is sometimes not possible to accommodate everyone's feelings while writing a neutral, accurate, verifiable, and sourced-based reference work.

Q3: Isn't calling this a creation myth the same thing as calling it a fairy tale, since that is one of the informal definitions for the word myth?

A3: No. The term creation myth is a coherent term in its own right that should not be parsed into separate words. The term has a unique meaning different from the informal definitions of the word myth. Just as an electoral college is not an institute of higher learning even though it contains the word college, a creation myth is not necessarily a fairy tale even though it contains the word myth. Formally defined terms provide unambiguous meaning that aid in the presentation of a more accurate and scholarly encyclopedic article. ^{[clarification needed]}

Q4: Does this article say or imply that Genesis 1–11 is not literally true? And if so, is that neutral?

A4: The viewpoint that Genesis 1–11 is literally true is held by only a tiny minority of sources. Wikipedia's neutrality policy does not say that articles must "give equal validity" to such views (see WP:GEVAL). In writing this article it also becomes necessary to proceed with some implicit assumptions that many readers are bound to find controversial (see WP:MNA).

Q5: Why does the article name have "narrative" rather than "myth"?

A5: This has been discussed several times, and there has not been sufficient consensus to change the name of the article.

See also Creation Myth Creationism Bible

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This article was nominated for deletion on 15 February 2007. The result of the discussion was keep.

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This article has previously been nominated to be moved. Please review prior discussions if you are considering renomination.

Discussions

RM, Creation according to Genesis -> Genesis creation myth, Moved, 27 January 2010, January 2010 discussion
RM, Genesis creation myth -> Creation according to Genesis, No consensus, 16 February 2010, February 2010 discussion
RM, Genesis creation myth -> Creation according to Genesis, No consensus, 25 March 2010, March 2010 discussion
RM, Genesis creation myth -> Biblical Creation, No consensus, 4 April 2010, April 2010 discussion 1
RM, Genesis creation myth -> Genesis creation narrative, Moved, 20 April 2010, April 2010 discussion 2
RM, Genesis creation narrative -> Genesis creation myth, No consensus, 4 March 2012, March 2012 discussion 1
RM, Genesis creation narrative -> Creation story in Genesis, No consensus, 4 March 2012, March 2012 discussion 2
RM, Genesis creation narrative -> Genesis creation myth, No consensus, 28 September 2012, September 2012 discussion
RM, Genesis creation narrative -> Creation in Genesis, Not moved, 1 February 2013, Feb 2013 discussion 1
RM, Genesis creation narrative -> Genesis creation myth, Not moved, 4 February 2013, Feb 2013 discussion 2
RM, Genesis creation narrative -> Genesis creation myth, No consensus, 22 January 2014, Jan 2014 discussion
RM, Genesis creation narrative -> Genesis creation myth, No consensus, 23 April 2014, April 2014 discussion
RM, Genesis creation narrative -> Genesis creation myth, Not moved, 22 January 2016, 2016 discussion
RM, Genesis creation narrative -> Genesis creation story, Withdrawn, 22 February 2017, 2017 discussion
RM, Genesis creation narrative → Genesis creation narratives, Not moved, 16 December 2022, discussion
RM, Genesis creation narrative -> Genesis creation story, Not moved, 7 June 2023, discussion

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Ashley Rindsberg (December 27, 2025). "Wikipedia editors are quietly secularising religion". UnHerd. Retrieved December 27, 2025. Or look at the entry on the Judeo-Christian account of creation, "Genesis creation narrative". It describes the first lines of the Bible as a "creation myth", which Wikipedia defines as "a symbolic narrative of how the world began and how people first came to inhabit it". For billions of monotheists, Genesis isn't a metaphorical tale in a comparative-mythology anthology: it is the authoritative account of the world's origins. To see it presented as "myth" is fundamentally at odds with how believers understand their own faith.

Historicity of Genesis

Latest comment: 7 months ago4 comments3 people in discussion

Compared to other creation myths around the world, such as the Enuma Elish and the Epic of Gilgamesh, the Genesis Creation Narrative (including the Flood Narrative) reads more like history than myth. Genesis is set apart from other creation myths around the world in that it is written in the style of a historical narrative. Very unusual for a creation myth. Why doesn't the Wikipedia article say that the Genesis Creation Narrative "reads more like history than myth" compared to other creation myths, perhaps with its own words?WorldQuestioneer (talk) 23:26, 12 June 2025 (UTC)Reply

Because we don't write whatever we want or find to be the case in articles, we include what reliable sources have to say for a given topic, in proportion to how prevalent each aspect or claim is within said body of sources. Remsense 🌈 论 23:30, 12 June 2025 (UTC)Reply

it is written in the style of a historical narrative" I don't see any particular imitation of historical narratives in the text. "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. And the earth was waste and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep: and the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. And God said, Let there be light: and there was light." It sounds like a very typical once upon a time tale, in the style of Charles Perrault and the Brothers Grimm. When I first heard the silly tale at the age of 5, I asked a teacher why there is no Darwinian evolution in the text. Dimadick (talk) 10:20, 13 June 2025 (UTC)Reply

The Waw Consecutive Imperfect and Wayyiqtol conjunction

WorldQuestioneer (talk) 21:51, 10 December 2025 (UTC)Reply

Myth or Account?

Latest comment: 7 months ago4 comments3 people in discussion

At the beginning of the article, it says creation myth with a link to the "creation myth" article. However throughout the rest of the account it refers to the narrative as an account. Shouldn't it be consistent throughout? I would even say a more neutral word like "narrative" or something should be used throughout the article to promote a NPOV. "Myth" is specifically a fictional tale, whereas "account" is something that really happened. People believe differently about this, so neither word should be used in my opinion. AnonymousEditor366 (talk) 02:21, 23 December 2025 (UTC)Reply

Hello AnonymousEditor366. This is covered by the FAQ at the top of this page. --McSly (talk) 02:57, 23 December 2025 (UTC)Reply

Okay that makes sense. The link can also help people understand too I guess AnonymousEditor366 (talk) 04:23, 24 December 2025 (UTC)Reply

Wiki Education assignment: Religion 100 Introduction to Religion

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This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 16 March 2026 and 6 May 2026. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Mr10209839 (article contribs).

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[3] ttp://www.stenudd.com/myth/mythlogics2.htm

[4] ttp://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1O69-Creation.html

[5] ttp://school.discoveryeducation.com/lessonplans/programs/bookofgenesis/

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